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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:32 pm    Post subject:

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After an inexplicable non-overturn of what clearly should have been a Pascal fumble, the Colts were given new life, but could not take advantage. The Bills prevail.



That call was egregious, Pascal clearly fumbled. Rivers was done last season, his shoulder is trash at this point. While some of those drops were on his receivers, Rivers was launching wobbly passes on a line due to him compensating for a trashed shoulder. Time to hang it up.

Speaking of bad calls, Wolford gave himself up. That should have been a personal foul.


If the Colts have timeouts left, they probably get into FG position at the end. They couldn't work the middle late. Also, consider the following. The Colts had 3rd and 5 with 1:59 left. Seven yards later, there was 1 minute left. It took them 59 seconds to gain 7 yards, which is just inexplicably bad clock management. This sequence included huddling up after gaining a first down. Then after the awful non-reversal ruling when the Pascal play went to replay, there were 28 seconds left. The play to Pittman was a terrible play because it was only going to be a 2-yard gain at best, and because he had to struggle just to try to make it to the sideline, he fumbled and that kept the clock running. It was just horrific game management by Indy all game long. I didn't necessarily hate going for 2 when it was 24-16 because it was from the 1, but why are you going out of shotgun with Rivers and then running Taylor? In order for the defense to not completely key in on the running back there, there has to be the threat that the QB might keep it himself on the RPO. Obviously, there's no chance that the statue of Rivers is going to keep it. So just line up under center if you're going to run, or get Brissett in to keep the defense honest. They consistently used Brissett at the goal line in the latter part of the season, so I have no idea why they went away from that other than one snap today.

And yes, that was clearly a personal foul on Adams. This is the second year in a row that the Seahawks were allowed to injure the opposing starting QB during the wild card round.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:03 pm    Post subject:

Reich has done a great job in Indianapolis, but he made some major game decision blunders today.

I like being aggressive, but within reason. Going for it on 4th down from the 4 yard line at the end of the half was a bad decision and going for 2 when you could have just kicked the extra point to be down 7 was even worse.

Indy actually dominated large portions of the game (surprisingly) but Reich was overreacting to his perceived thoughts about the dangers of the Buffalo offense.

Good job by Buffalo grinding it out but they will need to be a lot better in their next game if they want to advance. And yes, I am already 0-1 in my picks vs the spread!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:05 pm    Post subject:

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Alex Smith is inactive for the WFT. This will be a low scoring game, the Bucs will take them with a low-risk game plan.


I disagree, I think Arians/Brady will be hyper aggressive in the passing game.

I would be surprised if this is a close game, but of course the NFL is amazingly unpredictable which is a huge strength of the league compared to other sports.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:32 pm    Post subject:

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Alex Smith is inactive for the WFT. This will be a low scoring game, the Bucs will take them with a low-risk game plan.


I disagree, I think Arians/Brady will be hyper aggressive in the passing game.

I would be surprised if this is a close game, but of course the NFL is amazingly unpredictable which is a huge strength of the league compared to other sports.



The WFT is rather so-so on run defense, I expect time consuming possessions on Tampa Bay with a mix of short to intermediate passes to keep WFT honest.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:33 pm    Post subject:

Wolford was sent to the hospital via an ambulance.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:41 pm    Post subject:

angrypuppy wrote:
Wolford was sent to the hospital via an ambulance.


Tough to watch, he got hit pretty hard
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:01 pm    Post subject:

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going for 2 when you could have just kicked the extra point to be down 7 was even worse.


There’s an article that says going for 2 gives them a 59% chance to win whereas going for 1 gives them a 45.5% chance to win.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28100383/going-2-8-points-why-nfl-teams-keep-doing-why-analytics-backs-up
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:42 pm    Post subject:

More importantly, I'm drinking Dragon's Milk beer. Not bad, I recommend it game time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:48 pm    Post subject:

I'd like to see more 12 personnel sets for Tampa Bay.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:54 pm    Post subject:

These announcers are idiots. Murphy-Bunting with a nice interception, but to be frank he stinks at coverage.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:02 pm    Post subject:

I'd rather have Heineke than Goff.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:04 pm    Post subject:

Typical score against Tampa Bay: Give up a big chunk play, coupled with rather poor pass defense. For the life of me, I don't know why the Bucs sat on their hands with a couple of presumably cheap CBs on the market, and only one safety taken during the draft. Failure of imagination.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:11 pm    Post subject:

TB is what...like 50 and still doing the damn thing. Goat.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:04 pm    Post subject:

Arians, you idiot, if you don't like the zone coverage stop sending 5.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:29 pm    Post subject:

Good drive killed by Vaughn fumble. For the life of me, he was a reach pick in the 3rd round when Tampa Bay needed a CB. Awful
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:30 pm    Post subject:

As I said earlier, Tampa Bay tends to give up too many chunk plays.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:32 pm    Post subject:

I still expect Tampa Bay to win, but as I said... low scoring game, TB prone to giving up chunk plays, poor pass coverage. They still should win tonight, but they'll lose badly to New Orleans next week.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:18 pm    Post subject:

Silver lining: If the Bucs lose this game, I hope management takes a long, hard look at Arians. Leftwich and Bowles. They are terrible.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:32 pm    Post subject:

Tampa Bay was saved by a bad call.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:35 pm    Post subject:

Washington did as well as any team coming out of the NFC East expected. This game wasn't as close as the final score indicated.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:39 pm    Post subject:

Heck of an effort by Heinecke. He earned himself some money with that start tonight. Some team will sign him for a few million to be their backup.

Tampa pretty much felt in control, but left the door open for the WFT. Still, a solid-enough win. It likely sets up a divisional clash with the Saints next week for them, assuming the Saints don't blow a home game against a decimated Bears team that has already ruled out Roquan Smith and Darnell Mooney.

Brady looked good tonight, also. His arm is not an issue at all. Still has that great pocket awareness, and that pass to Evans on their final drive was an absolute thing of beauty.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:44 pm    Post subject:

Tampa Bay will lose to New Orleans next week. Easy money if the spread is tight.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:46 pm    Post subject:

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Tampa Bay will lose to New Orleans next week. Easy money if the spread is tight.


It's hard to beat the same team 3 times in one season! That's the hope for Tampa Bay fans. Maybe Brees looks every bit of his age. It's not impossible.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:49 pm    Post subject:

angrypuppy wrote:
Tampa Bay was saved by a bad call.


What was the bad call?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:52 pm    Post subject:

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Tampa Bay will lose to New Orleans next week. Easy money if the spread is tight.


It's hard to beat the same team 3 times in one season! That's the hope for Tampa Bay fans. Maybe Brees looks every bit of his age. It's not impossible.



Shades of Hitchhiker's Guide, TB needs improbability drive to win.

TB loses at the line (both), the NO pass rush overwhelms the TB offensive line. It'll be even worse if the RG (Cappa, who isn't much to begin with) is replace by that awful practice squad G. The NO offensive line does a great job at neutralizing the TB pass rush. What's funny is the lack of adjustments by TB from game to game, let alone in game. That makes life easy for Sean Payton and his staff.
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