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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:38 am Post subject: |
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If you want to watch Alvarez vs Smith, you may have to have DAZN. It's a DAZN exclusive. I believe some IPTV will have it.
I'm going out on a limb and give Smith a shot. He has the equipment, 6'3" height, and 8" reach advantage, he has to use it. He has to keep Canelo at the end of his jab, he has a good one. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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governator Franchise Player


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jodeke wrote: | If you want to watch Alvarez vs Smith, you may have to have DAZN. It's a DAZN exclusive. I believe some IPTV will have it.
I'm going out on a limb and give Smith a shot. He has the equipment, 6'3" height, and 8" reach advantage, he has to use it. He has to keep Canelo at the end of his jab, he has a good one. |
The height and reach discrepancy looks insane side by side but we all know the salmon gonna chop that tree down, no chance for smith |
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:47 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | jodeke wrote: | If you want to watch Alvarez vs Smith, you may have to have DAZN. It's a DAZN exclusive. I believe some IPTV will have it.
I'm going out on a limb and give Smith a shot. He has the equipment, 6'3" height, and 8" reach advantage, he has to use it. He has to keep Canelo at the end of his jab, he has a good one. |
The height and reach discrepancy looks insane side by side but we all know the salmon gonna chop that tree down, no chance for smith |
I give Canelo the weight advantage. When he rehydrates he'll probably come in around 180 maybe more. An upset wouldn't surprise me.
Canelo won going away. Have to give Smith his props he stood in with him. I didn't like the DAZN announcer. He was pro Saul all the way. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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BadGuy Star Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Canelo's performance, like GGG's on Friday, was expected. When elite fighters are matched up against bums/scrubs, you already know what the result is going to be. |
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jodeke Retired Number


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BadGuy wrote: | Canelo's performance, like GGG's on Friday, was expected. When elite fighters are matched up against bums/scrubs, you already know what the result is going to be. |
Until Saul fights someone like Charlo I'll not give him the props I gave him when he started his career. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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governator Franchise Player


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jodeke wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | Canelo's performance, like GGG's on Friday, was expected. When elite fighters are matched up against bums/scrubs, you already know what the result is going to be. |
Until Saul fights someone like Charlo I'll not give him the props I gave him when he started his career. |
u forgot GGG? |
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governator wrote: | jodeke wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | Canelo's performance, like GGG's on Friday, was expected. When elite fighters are matched up against bums/scrubs, you already know what the result is going to be. |
Until Saul fights someone like Charlo I'll not give him the props I gave him when he started his career. |
u forgot GGG? |
No, I didn't. He's already fought GGG twice. Jermall would be new blood on Saul's gloves. He presents more of a possible loss than Gennady. Not that I want Saul to lose. I just want to see the best fight the best. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Osei Starting Rotation

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jodeke wrote: | governator wrote: | jodeke wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | Canelo's performance, like GGG's on Friday, was expected. When elite fighters are matched up against bums/scrubs, you already know what the result is going to be. |
Until Saul fights someone like Charlo I'll not give him the props I gave him when he started his career. |
u forgot GGG? |
No, I didn't. He's already fought GGG twice. Jermall would be new blood on Saul's gloves. He presents more of a possible loss than Gennady. Not that I want Saul to lose. I just want to see the best fight the best. |
I wanna see the Canelo/Jermall fight too. I hear both fighters are blaming the other for the fight not happening. _________________ “No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.” - Heraclitus |
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BadGuy Star Player

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | jodeke wrote: | governator wrote: | jodeke wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | Canelo's performance, like GGG's on Friday, was expected. When elite fighters are matched up against bums/scrubs, you already know what the result is going to be. |
Until Saul fights someone like Charlo I'll not give him the props I gave him when he started his career. |
u forgot GGG? |
No, I didn't. He's already fought GGG twice. Jermall would be new blood on Saul's gloves. He presents more of a possible loss than Gennady. Not that I want Saul to lose. I just want to see the best fight the best. |
I wanna see the Canelo/Jermall fight too. I hear both fighters are blaming the other for the fight not happening. |
Only one of the two fighters mentioned has vacated championship belts multiple times to avoid defending, tested positive for PEDs, and literally filed a lawsuit to protect his ability to cherry-pick fights when pressured by his own promoters to fight better competition. |
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Ryan Garcia proved he's got the heart of a fighter. Nothing better in combat sports than a liver shot ko.
I just read your link. If that's your writing, you're better than anything from ESPN. _________________ KOBE |
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jonnybravo wrote: |
Ryan Garcia proved he's got the heart of a fighter. Nothing better in combat sports than a liver shot ko.
I just read your link. If that's your writing, you're better than anything from ESPN. |
Good fight too bad he seems like such a self absorbed tool. He's got to ditch the crown. He's got wicked hand speed and he can crack but his footwork is pretty basic. He might beat Davis or Haney but I think the likes of Lomachenko or Lopez works him. They were talking Pacman during the fight. Thats laughable. Even 40 yr old Manny puts him out. Campbell proved the kid is pretty hittable. Manny would starch him. |
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BadGuy Star Player

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jonnybravo wrote: |
Ryan Garcia proved he's got the heart of a fighter. Nothing better in combat sports than a liver shot ko.
I just read your link. If that's your writing, you're better than anything from ESPN. |
Heard he got put down early. Was it similar to the Linares/Loma fight? If so, i gotta watch it soon because that shows tremendous heart on Ryan Garcia's side! |
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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BadGuy wrote: | jonnybravo wrote: |
Ryan Garcia proved he's got the heart of a fighter. Nothing better in combat sports than a liver shot ko.
I just read your link. If that's your writing, you're better than anything from ESPN. |
Heard he got put down early. Was it similar to the Linares/Loma fight? If so, i gotta watch it soon because that shows tremendous heart on Ryan Garcia's side! |
He got popped with a left flush to the face. I was really surprised he got up so quick, in slo mo his head had that brain rattling in a cage moment. _________________ KOBE |
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ExPatLkrFan wrote: | jonnybravo wrote: |
Ryan Garcia proved he's got the heart of a fighter. Nothing better in combat sports than a liver shot ko.
I just read your link. If that's your writing, you're better than anything from ESPN. |
Good fight too bad he seems like such a self absorbed tool. He's got to ditch the crown. He's got wicked hand speed and he can crack but his footwork is pretty basic. He might beat Davis or Haney but I think the likes of Lomachenko or Lopez works him. They were talking Pacman during the fight. Thats laughable. Even 40 yr old Manny puts him out. Campbell proved the kid is pretty hittable. Manny would starch him. |
He's only 22 man... _________________ KOBE |
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BadGuy Star Player

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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:31 am Post subject: |
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jonnybravo wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | jonnybravo wrote: |
Ryan Garcia proved he's got the heart of a fighter. Nothing better in combat sports than a liver shot ko.
I just read your link. If that's your writing, you're better than anything from ESPN. |
Heard he got put down early. Was it similar to the Linares/Loma fight? If so, i gotta watch it soon because that shows tremendous heart on Ryan Garcia's side! |
He got popped with a left flush to the face. I was really surprised he got up so quick, in slo mo his head had that brain rattling in a cage moment. |
Damn, Garcia got rocked with that left that landed perfectly on his jaw. What a tremendous heart he showed in getting up and coming back to finish Campbell. Although this fight reminded me of Loma/Linares, Garcia's performance was more impressive given that the shot he took in the second round would have KO'd many fighters in that weight class. Absolutely beautiful liver shot KO! |
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:34 am Post subject: |
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FULL FIGHT
Campbell knocked Garcia down around 5:00. Garcia knocked Campbell out around 21:00
Ryan hit Campbell with the most devastating punch in the game, a liver shot. The punch shocks the liver, the largest gland organ, and a center of blood circulation, and causes the victim to lose focus and drive, and can cause a breathless feeling in the victim. I've never seen a fighter able to continue after receiving a solid liver punch. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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jodeke wrote: | FULL FIGHT
Campbell knocked Garcia down around 5:00. Garcia knocked Campbell out around 21:00
Ryan hit Campbell with the most devastating punch in the game, a liver shot. The punch shocks the liver, the largest gland organ, and a center of blood circulation, and causes the victim to lose focus and drive, and can cause a breathless feeling in the victim. I've never seen a fighter able to continue after receiving a solid liver punch. |
Ward v Gatti? |
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In_your_Eye wrote: | jodeke wrote: | FULL FIGHT
Campbell knocked Garcia down around 5:00. Garcia knocked Campbell out around 21:00
Ryan hit Campbell with the most devastating punch in the game, a liver shot. The punch shocks the liver, the largest gland organ, and a center of blood circulation, and causes the victim to lose focus and drive, and can cause a breathless feeling in the victim. I've never seen a fighter able to continue after receiving a solid liver punch. |
Ward v Gatti? |
I remember that war. Both got up from body shots. I don't think any were liver shots. Here are some highlights. LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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jodeke wrote: | FULL FIGHT
Campbell knocked Garcia down around 5:00. Garcia knocked Campbell out around 21:00
Ryan hit Campbell with the most devastating punch in the game, a liver shot. The punch shocks the liver, the largest gland organ, and a center of blood circulation, and causes the victim to lose focus and drive, and can cause a breathless feeling in the victim. I've never seen a fighter able to continue after receiving a solid liver punch. |
Nonito Donaire survived a solid liver shot vs. Naouya Inoue in the 11th round of their Dec 2019 fight and went on to go the distance in what ended up being fight of the year... |
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Osei wrote: | jodeke wrote: | FULL FIGHT
Campbell knocked Garcia down around 5:00. Garcia knocked Campbell out around 21:00
Ryan hit Campbell with the most devastating punch in the game, a liver shot. The punch shocks the liver, the largest gland organ, and a center of blood circulation, and causes the victim to lose focus and drive, and can cause a breathless feeling in the victim. I've never seen a fighter able to continue after receiving a solid liver punch. |
Nonito Donaire survived a solid liver shot vs. Naouya Inoue in the 11th round of their Dec 2019 fight and went on to go the distance in what ended up being fight of the year... |
Wouldn't really call that one a "solid" liver shot. Was more of a glancing one with less power than what Garcia landed. Of course, the Monster is capable of landing a perfect liver shot (and has before), but that one was not it imo. If that punch was landed better, he would have finished Donaire. Great fight overall, and good catch since it was a liver shot too. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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BadGuy wrote: | Osei wrote: | jodeke wrote: | FULL FIGHT
Campbell knocked Garcia down around 5:00. Garcia knocked Campbell out around 21:00
Ryan hit Campbell with the most devastating punch in the game, a liver shot. The punch shocks the liver, the largest gland organ, and a center of blood circulation, and causes the victim to lose focus and drive, and can cause a breathless feeling in the victim. I've never seen a fighter able to continue after receiving a solid liver punch. |
Nonito Donaire survived a solid liver shot vs. Naouya Inoue in the 11th round of their Dec 2019 fight and went on to go the distance in what ended up being fight of the year... |
Wouldn't really call that one a "solid" liver shot. Was more of a glancing one with less power than what Garcia landed. Of course, the Monster is capable of landing a perfect liver shot (and has before), but that one was not it imo. If that punch was landed better, he would have finished Donaire. Great fight overall, and good catch since it was a liver shot too. |
Looked like a glancing blow on the kidney. It had a delayed effect. Donaire kinda skipped to his right then decided to go down. Around 55:55 round 11. LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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