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| non-player zealot wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: |
Which one offers the best covid protection? |
Wearing it as a mask. |
Pre-wipe of course . . .
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | non-player zealot wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: |
Which one offers the best covid protection? |
Wearing it as a mask. |
Pre-wipe of course . . . |
Good reminder. Important safety tip.
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VACCINE UPDATE: CA will be receiving 327,000 doses of the new Pfizer #COVID19 vaccine in mid December.
Transparency, equity, and safety will continue to be our top priorities as we begin the distribution process for Phase 1.
https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1333550152011837440?s=19
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My concern with the Pfizer vaccine is storage difficulties. Facilities have to be equipped. I've heard Cedars-Sinai has the proper refrigeration equipment.
Keeping coronavirus vaccines in a deep freeze one of California’s big challenges
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Russia’s claim of a successful COVID-19 vaccine doesn’t pass the ‘smell test,’ critics say
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First responders, and then the hierarchy of risk needs to be the order. And that means rural areas tend to come in later.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | First responders, and then the hierarchy of risk needs to be the order. And that means rural areas tend to come in later. |
I trust by hierarchy you mean seniors and like. That term is often associated with a group of people according to ability or to economic, social, or professional standing.
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| jodeke wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | First responders, and then the hierarchy of risk needs to be the order. And that means rural areas tend to come in later. |
I trust by hierarchy you mean seniors and like. That term is often associated with a group of people according to ability or to economic, social, or professional standing. |
Hierarchy merely means order of precedence, and yes, the elderly are high on the hierarchy of risk.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | First responders, and then the hierarchy of risk needs to be the order. And that means rural areas tend to come in later. |
I trust by hierarchy you mean seniors and like. That term is often associated with a group of people according to ability or to economic, social, or professional standing. |
Hierarchy merely means order of precedence, and yes, the elderly are high on the hierarchy of risk. |
Exactly. Hierarchy is very different than elitism, which is what jodeke is referencing.
People in senior living environments need to be at the top of the priority list, after FL workers. They are at high risk and are at the mercy of the behavior of the staff who work their facilities.
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I get the confusion, as hierarchy is usually used to describe the power structure of one organization or another, and thus people separated by rank of importance.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | I get the confusion, as hierarchy is usually used to describe the power structure of one organization or another, and thus people separated by rank of importance. |
I do as well. I'm just illuminating the difference between logistical priorities and personally convenient societal preferences.
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Prioritization will be pretty much:
1. First responders and other front-line health care workers.
2. People with health conditions that put them at a much greater risk
3. Other essential workers
4. People in populations that create an extra risk, such as prisons
5. Non front-line health care workers
From there, risk pretty much corresponds to age, so something like:
6. 80+
7. 70+
8. 60+
etc.
One dilemma for how to categorize is families of high-priority cohorts. If a doctor is in Cohort 1 but her husband is much lower, then any exposure from him is an increased risk for her (and yes, she's already vaccinated, but efficacy isn't 100%). |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | I get the confusion, as hierarchy is usually used to describe the power structure of one organization or another, and thus people separated by rank of importance. |
I wasn't confused, just wanted clarity. Thank you.
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| LarryCoon wrote: | Prioritization will be pretty much:
1. First responders and other front-line health care workers.
2. People with health conditions that put them at a much greater risk
3. Other essential workers
4. People in populations that create an extra risk, such as prisons
5. Non front-line health care workers
From there, risk pretty much corresponds to age, so something like:
6. 80+
7. 70+
8. 60+
etc.
One dilemma for how to categorize is families of high-priority cohorts. If a doctor is in Cohort 1 but her husband is much lower, then any exposure from him is an increased risk for her (and yes, she's already vaccinated, but efficacy isn't 100%). |
Now that's breaking it down LC.👍🏾
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California Covid Deaths for November 30, 2020
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24,025,171 Tests Performed
24,025,171 Results Rec'd (0 PENDING)
1,212,968 POSITIVE (+14,034)
22,812,203 NEGATIVE
Day.......#..Day........#..Day........#..Day........#..Day........#..Day.......#...Day.......#...Day........#
2/26/2020 0 4/01/2020 21 5/01/2020 91 6/01/2020 38 7/01/2020 110 8/01/2020 219 9/01/2020 85 10/01/2020 96
2/27/2020 0 4/02/2020 32 5/02/2020 98 6/02/2020 35 7/02/2020 73 8/02/2020 132 9/02/2020 145 10/02/2020 98
2/28/2020 0 4/03/2020 34 5/03/2020 44 6/03/2020 75 7/03/2020 100 8/03/2020 32 9/03/2020 164 10/03/2020 88
2/29/2020 0 4/04/2020 39 5/04/2020 39 6/04/2020 61 7/04/2020 50 8/04/2020 113 9/04/2020 163 10/04/2020 46
3/01/2020 0 4/05/2020 43 5/05/2020 63 6/05/2020 63 7/05/2020 18 8/05/2020 202 9/05/2020 153 10/05/2020 29
3/02/2020 0 4/06/2020 24 5/06/2020 95 6/06/2020 74 7/06/2020 6 8/06/2020 166 9/06/2020 66 10/06/2020 28
3/03/2020 0 4/07/2020 31 5/07/2020 92 6/07/2020 67 7/07/2020 111 8/07/2020 142 9/07/2020 17 10/07/2020 51
3/04/2020 1 4/08/2020 68 5/08/2020 81 6/08/2020 27 7/08/2020 114 8/08/2020 178 9/08/2020 32 10/08/2020 133
3/05/2020 0 4/09/2020 50 5/09/2020 93 6/09/2020 44 7/09/2020 149 8/09/2020 104 9/09/2020 83 10/09/2020 67
3/06/2020 0 4/10/2020 49 5/10/2020 67 6/10/2020 79 7/10/2020 140 8/10/2020 66 9/10/2020 137 10/10/2020 72
3/07/2020 0 4/11/2020 68 5/11/2020 25 6/11/2020 105 7/11/2020 94 8/11/2020 109 9/11/2020 111 10/11/2020 64
3/08/2020 0 4/12/2020 42 5/12/2020 77 6/12/2020 62 7/12/2020 72 8/12/2020 180 9/12/2020 162 10/12/2020 8
3/09/2020 0 4/13/2020 36 5/13/2020 87 6/13/2020 46 7/13/2020 23 8/13/2020 160 9/13/2020 78 10/13/2020 9
3/10/2020 1 4/14/2020 71 5/14/2020 98 6/14/2020 74 7/14/2020 47 8/14/2020 188 9/14/2020 56 10/14/2020 58
3/12/2020 4 4/15/2020 63 5/15/2020 76 6/15/2020 26 7/15/2020 140 8/15/2020 151 9/15/2020 66 10/15/2020 118
3/13/2020 0 4/16/2020 69 5/16/2020 96 6/16/2020 32 7/16/2020 118 8/16/2020 77 9/16/2020 164 10/16/2020 73
3/14/2020 1 4/17/2020 95 5/17/2020 57 6/17/2020 87 7/17/2020 130 8/17/2020 18 9/17/2020 106 10/17/2020 69
3/15/2020 0 4/18/2020 87 5/18/2020 41 6/18/2020 82 7/18/2020 120 8/18/2020 100 9/18/2020 91 10/18/2020 44
3/16/2020 1 4/19/2020 94 5/19/2020 32 6/19/2020 70 7/19/2020 90 8/19/2020 181 9/19/2020 100 10/19/2020 27
3/17/2020 5 4/20/2020 42 5/20/2020 102 6/20/2020 64 7/20/2020 9 8/20/2020 163 9/20/2020 75 10/20/2020 22
3/18/2020 2 4/21/2020 60 5/21/2020 106 6/21/2020 71 7/21/2020 61 8/21/2020 135 9/21/2020 31 10/21/2020 35
3/19/2020 3 4/22/2020 86 5/22/2020 88 6/22/2020 20 7/22/2020 115 8/22/2020 167 9/22/2020 53 10/22/2020 162
3/20/2020 3 4/23/2020 115 5/23/2020 78 6/23/2020 65 7/23/2020 157 8/23/2020 146 9/23/2020 133 10/23/2020 73
3/21/2020 4 4/24/2020 93 5/24/2020 66 6/24/2020 52 7/24/2020 159 8/24/2020 18 9/24/2020 110 10/24/2020 49
3/22/2020 4 4/25/2020 89 5/25/2020 21 6/25/2020 101 7/25/2020 151 8/25/2020 105 9/25/2020 84 10/25/2020 34
3/23/2020 0 4/26/2020 59 5/26/2020 19 6/26/2020 79 7/26/2020 79 8/26/2020 150 9/26/2020 134 10/26/2020 12
3/24/2020 13 4/27/2020 45 5/27/2020 70 6/27/2020 60 7/27/2020 29 8/27/2020 143 9/27/2020 55 10/27/2020 43
3/25/2020 13 4/28/2020 54 5/28/2020 89 6/28/2020 33 7/28/2020 73 8/28/2020 140 9/28/2020 21 10/28/2020 75
3/26/2020 12 4/29/2020 78 5/29/2020 95 6/29/2020 31 7/29/2020 197 8/29/2020 144 9/29/2020 32 10/29/2020 66
3/27/2020 13 4/30/2020 95 5/30/2020 88 6/30/2020 44 7/30/2020 194 8/30/2020 71 9/30/2020 152 10/30/3030 30
3/28/2020 23 5/31/2020 57 7/31/2020 96 8/31/2020 28 10/31/2020 55
3/30/2020 34
3/31/2020 15
Day.........#..Day........#
11/01/2020 41
11/02/2020 5
11/03/2020 14
11/04/2020 66
11/05/2020 63
11/06/2020 51
11/07/2020 73
11/08/2020 24
11/09/2020 14
11/10/2020 24
11/11/2020 69
11/12/2020 38
11/13/2020 29
11/14/2020 81
11/15/2020 35
11/16/2020 10
11/17/2020 36
11/18/2020 61
11/19/2020 106
11/20/2020 91
11/21/2020 86
11/22/2020 33
11/23/2020 50
11/24/2020 43
11/25/2020 106
11/26/2020 104
11/27/2020 54
11/28/2020 56
11/29/2020 32
11/30/2020 20
.....TOTAL 19,141
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https://update.covid19.ca.gov/
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A spike is expected because of Thanksgiving travel.
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| Quote: | Chinese officials gave the world more optimistic data than they had access to internally
China's system took on average 23 days to diagnose confirmed patients, and testing failures meant most received negative results until January 10
A history of underfunding, understaffing, poor morale and bureaucratic models of governance hampered China's early warning system, internal audits found
A large and previously undisclosed outbreak of influenza happened in early December in Hubei province. |
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/30/asia/wuhan-china-covid-intl/index.html |
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| jodeke wrote: | My concern with the Pfizer vaccine is storage difficulties. Facilities have to be equipped. I've heard Cedars-Sinai has the proper refrigeration equipment.
Keeping coronavirus vaccines in a deep freeze one of California’s big challenges
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Russia’s claim of a successful COVID-19 vaccine doesn’t pass the ‘smell test,’ critics say
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some of us are concern about the the mRNA vaccine (unless I'm reading it wrong, please reply) that it tells our own cells to make the virus protein to then activate our antibody production... the mRNA signals supposed auto-off after only couple days but my fear is that a malfunction for whatever reason doesn't turn the mRNA, this can lead to something like an autoimmune disease... I'm scared because of the lack of long term studies but with that said, I'm gonna take it |
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| governator wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | My concern with the Pfizer vaccine is storage difficulties. Facilities have to be equipped. I've heard Cedars-Sinai has the proper refrigeration equipment.
Keeping coronavirus vaccines in a deep freeze one of California’s big challenges
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Russia’s claim of a successful COVID-19 vaccine doesn’t pass the ‘smell test,’ critics say
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some of us are concern about the the mRNA vaccine (unless I'm reading it wrong, please reply) that it tells our own cells to make the virus protein to then activate our antibody production... the mRNA signals supposed auto-off after only couple days but my fear is that a malfunction for whatever reason doesn't turn the mRNA, this can lead to something like an autoimmune disease... I'm scared because of the lack of long term studies but with that said, I'm gonna take it |
I'm not qualified to answer with any reliability. This article may help.
Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines
LINK
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| Palin wrote: | | Quote: | Chinese officials gave the world more optimistic data than they had access to internally
China's system took on average 23 days to diagnose confirmed patients, and testing failures meant most received negative results until January 10
A history of underfunding, understaffing, poor morale and bureaucratic models of governance hampered China's early warning system, internal audits found
A large and previously undisclosed outbreak of influenza happened in early December in Hubei province. |
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/30/asia/wuhan-china-covid-intl/index.html |
this is why i don't believe one bit that China has contained the virus. most of the covid cases can easily be masked (intentionally or not) as common flu. i've been in china many times, i know their custom well and how people interact. there's no way they contain the covid in that huge population. |
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I hope this vaccine race doesn't turn into a money making venture. The United States is paying Pfizer for 100 million doses with a commitment for another 500 million. That's enough to vaccinate a population of 331 million. They will be free to Americans.
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| I can think of a couple of industries that will pay whatever the drug companies ask for considering they are experiencing no economic activity because of the coronavirus. |
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What was the daily new case high for Los Angeles when we had our previous spike?
There are 7,400 new cases in the last 24 hours per worldometers. |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | What was the daily new case high for Los Angeles when we had our previous spike?
There are 7,400 new cases in the last 24 hours per worldometers. |
We beat the high score yesterday. |
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Former Presidents Obama, Bush and Clinton volunteer to get coronavirus vaccine publicly to prove it's safe
| Quote: | | Former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton are volunteering to get their Covid-19 vaccines on camera to promote public confidence in the vaccine's safety once the US Food and Drug Administration authorizes one. |
Guessing Fauci, Biden and Harris will also do it.
Trump will probably say he's immune and if he bothers, it will not be public. But I think he needs a huge needle, really huge, the biggest ever...
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