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FernieBee Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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The Fonz wasn't as cool as I thought. He was a 30-year old hanging out with 20-somethings. _________________ Garvey, Lopes, Cey, Russell |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 12186 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | angrypuppy wrote: | C M B wrote: | We should've rebuilt the twin towers. |
I agree, it would have been defiant. Though the memorial is nice, it feels like acquiescence to defeat. |
That site is now a American's greatest symbol of commerce and unfettered capitalism run amok: a mall. Basically nothing more American, imo. |
Honestly, Cut, I don't know if you've been there or not, but it's a gorgeous memorial and I cried when I visited. |
I went to the area but honestly I'm embarrassed to say I didn't to the actual memorial part. I've only been to NYC for work and never quite had the time. I'm sure you're right. I couldn't help but notice the mall in the area though. |
As a former finance bro, I can attest that most of the Financial District absolutely sucks outside of Delmonico's. But the memorial is worth visiting next time work takes you to the Big Apple. |
You have been demystified. |
Not true, because I was never a finance bro. But Delmonico's is great. |
Please, you lived at Dorsia's. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | kikanga wrote: | As a former finance bro, do you think there is any merit behind the reasoning of some Middle Easterners hating US capitalism. I'm not informed enough to have an opinion either way. And IN NO CIRCUMSTANCE would I excuse the actions on 9/11. Murder is never the answer.
But has US capitalism specifically hurt and killed Middle Easterners in a tangible way where someone living in that area of the globe would think it was justified in an eye for an eye way? I'm focusing on US capitalism, not US foreign policy. I'm familiar with that. |
I mean, Osama was the scion of a billionaire.
It was a theocratic/geostrategic conflict between elites, not some subaltern proletariat overthrow of capitalism. |
So is that a no? There isn't a logical reason for Middle Easterners to want to retaliate against US capitalism specifically? I mean if they just attacked the Pentagon I wouldn't even be asking this question.
Maybe they attacked the Towers because they were tall symbolic buildings? Not because of what work Americans did within those buildings (or workers like them)? _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jul 2015 Posts: 32979
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | kikanga wrote: | As a former finance bro, do you think there is any merit behind the reasoning of some Middle Easterners hating US capitalism. I'm not informed enough to have an opinion either way. And IN NO CIRCUMSTANCE would I excuse the actions on 9/11. Murder is never the answer.
But has US capitalism specifically hurt and killed Middle Easterners in a tangible way where someone living in that area of the globe would think it was justified in an eye for an eye way? I'm focusing on US capitalism, not US foreign policy. I'm familiar with that. |
I mean, Osama was the scion of a billionaire.
It was a theocratic/geostrategic conflict between elites, not some subaltern proletariat overthrow of capitalism. |
So is that a no? There isn't a logical reason for Middle Easterners to want to retaliate against US capitalism specifically? I mean if they just attacked the Pentagon I wouldn't even be asking this question.
Maybe they attacked the Towers because they were tall symbolic buildings? Not because of what work Americans did within those buildings (or workers like them)? |
You think the Taliban were socialists? _________________ Under New Management |
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Omar Little Moderator
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90307 Location: Formerly Known As 24
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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It’s not capitalism that the Arab world has a beef with, its neocolonialism. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | kikanga wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | kikanga wrote: | As a former finance bro, do you think there is any merit behind the reasoning of some Middle Easterners hating US capitalism. I'm not informed enough to have an opinion either way. And IN NO CIRCUMSTANCE would I excuse the actions on 9/11. Murder is never the answer.
But has US capitalism specifically hurt and killed Middle Easterners in a tangible way where someone living in that area of the globe would think it was justified in an eye for an eye way? I'm focusing on US capitalism, not US foreign policy. I'm familiar with that. |
I mean, Osama was the scion of a billionaire.
It was a theocratic/geostrategic conflict between elites, not some subaltern proletariat overthrow of capitalism. |
So is that a no? There isn't a logical reason for Middle Easterners to want to retaliate against US capitalism specifically? I mean if they just attacked the Pentagon I wouldn't even be asking this question.
Maybe they attacked the Towers because they were tall symbolic buildings? Not because of what work Americans did within those buildings (or workers like them)? |
You think the Taliban were socialists? |
No. My questions weren't rhetorical. They were genuine.
I think your response answered my question though.
They attacked the towers because they were there and they could hit them and they were in America. It wasn't a statement against US capitalism. It was a statement against the US in general.
If I'm mischaracterizing your thoughts please correct me.
Your original answer (specifically the bolded) was a little tough to understand. So I asked more questions to clarify. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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LarryCoon Site Staff
Joined: 11 Aug 2002 Posts: 11265
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:41 am Post subject: |
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FernieBee wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Big, fancy words are good and people should use them whenever they feel like. It's also good and fun to look up unfamiliar words. |
So, you accede to verbosity?!
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Grandiloquence. |
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Omar Little Moderator
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90307 Location: Formerly Known As 24
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | FernieBee wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Big, fancy words are good and people should use them whenever they feel like. It's also good and fun to look up unfamiliar words. |
So, you accede to verbosity?!
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Indubitably, and he’s not pusillanimous about it. |
I am the very delineation of equanimity. | you mean supercilious obstreperousness. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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angrypuppy Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | angrypuppy wrote: | C M B wrote: | We should've rebuilt the twin towers. |
I agree, it would have been defiant. Though the memorial is nice, it feels like acquiescence to defeat. |
That site is now a American's greatest symbol of commerce and unfettered capitalism run amok: a mall. Basically nothing more American, imo. |
Honestly, Cut, I don't know if you've been there or not, but it's a gorgeous memorial and I cried when I visited. |
I went to the area but honestly I'm embarrassed to say I didn't to the actual memorial part. I've only been to NYC for work and never quite had the time. I'm sure you're right. I couldn't help but notice the mall in the area though. |
As a former finance bro, I can attest that most of the Financial District absolutely sucks outside of Delmonico's. But the memorial is worth visiting next time work takes you to the Big Apple. |
You have been demystified. |
Not true, because I was never a finance bro. But Delmonico's is great. |
Delmonico's is one of the worst dining experiences in the City. That's not controversial, it's the truth. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 11591 Location: Stay Thirsty my Friends
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I had pizza three times in Rome (Summer 2019) at three different places and all three places sucked, I'm sure it;s a cultural thing, but I had such high hopes... _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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angrypuppy wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | angrypuppy wrote: | C M B wrote: | We should've rebuilt the twin towers. |
I agree, it would have been defiant. Though the memorial is nice, it feels like acquiescence to defeat. |
That site is now a American's greatest symbol of commerce and unfettered capitalism run amok: a mall. Basically nothing more American, imo. |
Honestly, Cut, I don't know if you've been there or not, but it's a gorgeous memorial and I cried when I visited. |
I went to the area but honestly I'm embarrassed to say I didn't to the actual memorial part. I've only been to NYC for work and never quite had the time. I'm sure you're right. I couldn't help but notice the mall in the area though. |
As a former finance bro, I can attest that most of the Financial District absolutely sucks outside of Delmonico's. But the memorial is worth visiting next time work takes you to the Big Apple. |
You have been demystified. |
Not true, because I was never a finance bro. But Delmonico's is great. |
Delmonico's is one of the worst dining experiences in the City. That's not controversial, it's the truth. |
Service? _________________ Under New Management |
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angrypuppy Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | angrypuppy wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Cutheon wrote: | angrypuppy wrote: | C M B wrote: | We should've rebuilt the twin towers. |
I agree, it would have been defiant. Though the memorial is nice, it feels like acquiescence to defeat. |
That site is now a American's greatest symbol of commerce and unfettered capitalism run amok: a mall. Basically nothing more American, imo. |
Honestly, Cut, I don't know if you've been there or not, but it's a gorgeous memorial and I cried when I visited. |
I went to the area but honestly I'm embarrassed to say I didn't to the actual memorial part. I've only been to NYC for work and never quite had the time. I'm sure you're right. I couldn't help but notice the mall in the area though. |
As a former finance bro, I can attest that most of the Financial District absolutely sucks outside of Delmonico's. But the memorial is worth visiting next time work takes you to the Big Apple. |
You have been demystified. |
Not true, because I was never a finance bro. But Delmonico's is great. |
Delmonico's is one of the worst dining experiences in the City. That's not controversial, it's the truth. |
Service? |
On a par with the food.
Delmonico's is inside a gorgeous building. The interior was nice and clean. But for the steakhouse experience you have to head to Midtown. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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I can’t find a suitable way to enforce it that wouldn’t be rife with all kinds of inequities and moral problems, but I don’t think people who can’t demonstrate basic parenting skills and the ability to support a child should be having one. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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And I definitely think yuppies in their forties shouldn’t be whelping entitled only children. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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C M B Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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The Larry O'Brien trophy is the best-looking trophy in all of sports. _________________ http://chickhearn.ytmnd.com/
Sister Golden Hair wrote: | LAMAR ODOM is an anagram for ... DOOM ALARM
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | I can’t find a suitable way to enforce it that wouldn’t be rife with all kinds of inequities and moral problems, but I don’t think people who can’t demonstrate basic parenting skills and the ability to support a child should be having one. |
You'd change the course of human history for the better if you could figure out a solution to that. _________________ KOBE |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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C M B wrote: | The Larry O'Brien trophy is the best-looking trophy in all of sports. |
It's easier to get used to looking at when you have 17 of them. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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DrDent Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:37 am Post subject: Re: What are your most Controversial opinions? |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | What are your most controversial opinions? Post 'em here. Get 'em off your chest.
For example, most people think fireworks rule and are awesome. But I think those people are wrong.
Actually, all fireworks suck and are lame. |
I actually agree with this. |
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DrDent Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | I can’t find a suitable way to enforce it that wouldn’t be rife with all kinds of inequities and moral problems, but I don’t think people who can’t demonstrate basic parenting skills and the ability to support a child should be having one. |
Kind of like the "so you need a license to drive..." saying |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:19 am Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | C M B wrote: | The Larry O'Brien trophy is the best-looking trophy in all of sports. |
It's easier to get used to looking at when you have 17 of them. |
Fancy too, LV suitcase to carry... Lakers only one that has it |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:04 am Post subject: Re: What are your most Controversial opinions? |
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DrDent wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | What are your most controversial opinions? Post 'em here. Get 'em off your chest.
For example, most people think fireworks rule and are awesome. But I think those people are wrong.
Actually, all fireworks suck and are lame. |
I actually agree with this. |
Might attitude towards them has definitely soured over the years. I used to enjoy a well designed, professional display. But the reality is they just cause stress and discomfort to pets and some people as well. And I've come to have a distaste for the tacky sense of American "Patriotism" associated with Independence Day celebrations.
Street fireworks are definitely bogus and people who randomly shoot them off are just inconsiderate jerks. Though, I do love a good "moron has a firework accident" video. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:20 am Post subject: Re: What are your most Controversial opinions? |
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DrDent wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | What are your most controversial opinions? Post 'em here. Get 'em off your chest.
For example, most people think fireworks rule and are awesome. But I think those people are wrong.
Actually, all fireworks suck and are lame. |
I actually agree with this. |
The only exception is people’s phone pics of fireworks. Those always turn out incredible. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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ocho Retired Number
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People who record a concert on their phone for more than 10 seconds should be ejected from the venue. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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C M B Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:46 am Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | People who record a concert on their phone for more than 0 seconds should be ejected from the venue. |
_________________ http://chickhearn.ytmnd.com/
Sister Golden Hair wrote: | LAMAR ODOM is an anagram for ... DOOM ALARM
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ocho Retired Number
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C M B wrote: | ocho wrote: | People who record a concert on their phone for more than 0 seconds should be ejected from the venue. |
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If you have a great seat or a particular song is special for you, I’ll allow a 10sec grace. Then it’s time to put it away forever. Went to a show a couple years ago and the guy in front of me watched the entire thing through the screen on his phone. A video he will never watch and sounds horrible. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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