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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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PayasoLoco wrote: | dumpaling wrote: | Kuz didn't have a great series but people are being unreasonable. When you have 2 guys scoring 30 a game the "3rd option" isn't going to look good. Remember Glen Rice? |
Look at AC contribution, look at DG contribution tonight. This series Kuz was out of his class |
lol DG? really ? u citing a trash who finally hit a 3 in the 4th qtr?
find a better name...
while u are comparing him to DG, That dude is getting paid 15m while kuzma is getting paid 2m |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Come on Kuz, wake up
If Kuz can play decent, we’d best both teams rather easily |
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dumpaling Sixth Man
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | PayasoLoco wrote: | dumpaling wrote: | Kuz didn't have a great series but people are being unreasonable. When you have 2 guys scoring 30 a game the "3rd option" isn't going to look good. Remember Glen Rice? |
Look at AC contribution, look at DG contribution tonight. This series Kuz was out of his class |
lol DG? really ? u citing a trash who finally hit a 3 in the 4th qtr?
find a better name...
while u are comparing him to DG, That dude is getting paid 15m while kuzma is getting paid 2m |
Seriously!! Plus no team has even taken us past 5 games, and these people are calling role players trash |
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BigBoi Star Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Killer_Z wrote: | 1) LBJ
2) AD
3) KCP
4) Rondo
5) Caruso
6) Dwight
7) Green
8)Morris
9) McGee
11) THT
12) Kuzma
12) Smith/Waiters/Cook |
Fixed. _________________ #mamba4ever! |
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where24happens Star Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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This guy was a huge reason we blew that lead in the 3rd. Completely unplayable the whole series. |
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XTC Star Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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He did start the 4th with a much needed 3 ptr, too bad Elyk Amzuk just isn’t himself these days. |
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LakerMindLA Star Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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where24happens wrote: | This guy was a huge reason we blew that lead in the 3rd. Completely unplayable the whole series. |
Vogel should have never had him guarding Morris and play SG without any rim protection in the game.
Kuzma didn't play well, but he wasn't put into a position to succeed.
He did hit a big 3 to start the 4th though, which gave the Lakers a bit of breathing room. |
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JamaalWilkes Star Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Kuzma is going through personal issues. |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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I’ve said it before: it’s a rare player who elevates his game in his first ever playoffs. Look at JC with the Cavs; absolute disaster. This year he was much better for the Jazz, knocking down shots and not looking like a complete zero on the court. Kuzma has at least looked good on defense (prior to this series anyway). He was a disaster in his last couple of games, but he’s still learning to deal with pressure and teams that really game plan like they do in the playoffs as opposed to regular season shenanigans that Kuzma was familiar with. I don’t expect a lot from him in the Finals either, but I absolutely think he has the potential to be at least a good contributor in future playoffs for the Lakers. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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JamaalWilkes wrote: | Kuzma is going through personal issues. |
Pmsing? |
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dumpaling Sixth Man
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AD23 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:16 am Post subject: |
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mhan00 wrote: | I’ve said it before: it’s a rare player who elevates his game in his first ever playoffs. Look at JC with the Cavs; absolute disaster. This year he was much better for the Jazz, knocking down shots and not looking like a complete zero on the court. Kuzma has at least looked good on defense (prior to this series anyway). He was a disaster in his last couple of games, but he’s still learning to deal with pressure and teams that really game plan like they do in the playoffs as opposed to regular season shenanigans that Kuzma was familiar with. I don’t expect a lot from him in the Finals either, but I absolutely think he has the potential to be at least a good contributor in future playoffs for the Lakers. |
Quit with the excuses. AC is doing great! It’s the mental part. He doesn’t have it. |
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dumpaling Sixth Man
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:23 am Post subject: |
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AD23 wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | I’ve said it before: it’s a rare player who elevates his game in his first ever playoffs. Look at JC with the Cavs; absolute disaster. This year he was much better for the Jazz, knocking down shots and not looking like a complete zero on the court. Kuzma has at least looked good on defense (prior to this series anyway). He was a disaster in his last couple of games, but he’s still learning to deal with pressure and teams that really game plan like they do in the playoffs as opposed to regular season shenanigans that Kuzma was familiar with. I don’t expect a lot from him in the Finals either, but I absolutely think he has the potential to be at least a good contributor in future playoffs for the Lakers. |
Quit with the excuses. AC is doing great! It’s the mental part. He doesn’t have it. |
and Kuz is ranked 95th in PER for the playoffs while carushow is ranked 110thand jeremi grant is 115th. Morris is 107th. |
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AD23 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:25 am Post subject: |
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dumpaling wrote: | AD23 wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | I’ve said it before: it’s a rare player who elevates his game in his first ever playoffs. Look at JC with the Cavs; absolute disaster. This year he was much better for the Jazz, knocking down shots and not looking like a complete zero on the court. Kuzma has at least looked good on defense (prior to this series anyway). He was a disaster in his last couple of games, but he’s still learning to deal with pressure and teams that really game plan like they do in the playoffs as opposed to regular season shenanigans that Kuzma was familiar with. I don’t expect a lot from him in the Finals either, but I absolutely think he has the potential to be at least a good contributor in future playoffs for the Lakers. |
Quit with the excuses. AC is doing great! It’s the mental part. He doesn’t have it. |
and Kuz is ranked 95th in PER for the playoffs while carushow is ranked 110thand jeremi grant is 115th. Morris is 107th. |
Ahhh yes. PER. all that PER and he’s on the bench in the 4th when the team closes out the game. |
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dumpaling Sixth Man
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:33 am Post subject: |
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because he plays the same position as our 2 superstars |
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AD23 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:35 am Post subject: |
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dumpaling wrote: | because he plays the same position as our 2 superstars |
That’s exactly it. Or perhaps he’s clueless defensively. You tell me. |
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dumpaling Sixth Man
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:38 am Post subject: |
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AD23 wrote: | dumpaling wrote: | because he plays the same position as our 2 superstars |
That’s exactly it. Or perhaps he’s clueless defensively. You tell me. |
and before this series he was playing some of the best defense in the bubble so I guess I will tell you... you're the clueless one. |
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Sina Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:46 am Post subject: |
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He is not a star level player but his scoring ability is much needed and he has improved his defense. Thanks for the great effort, Kuz! |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:30 am Post subject: |
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He's nowhere near as good as he thinks. Their rook consistently embarrassed him during the series. But his defense has improved, at least. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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PayasoLoco Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | PayasoLoco wrote: | dumpaling wrote: | Kuz didn't have a great series but people are being unreasonable. When you have 2 guys scoring 30 a game the "3rd option" isn't going to look good. Remember Glen Rice? |
Look at AC contribution, look at DG contribution tonight. This series Kuz was out of his class |
lol DG? really ? u citing a trash who finally hit a 3 in the 4th qtr?
find a better name...
while u are comparing him to DG, That dude is getting paid 15m while kuzma is getting paid 2m |
Yes DG whose offense has been trash but defense and effort was huge tonight with big time blocks and hustle... |
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:59 am Post subject: |
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i'm started to feel sorry for Kuz. the guy wants it bad, but his inability to add to his game really let him down. he's still the same player from 3 years ago, maybe even worse at three point shooting. the 3rd option has really gotten to his head. i truly believe if we offered up Kuz instead of Hart, N.O. would turn that down. |
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l4kerz Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:52 am Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | i'm started to feel sorry for Kuz. the guy wants it bad, but his inability to add to his game really let him down. he's still the same player from 3 years ago, maybe even worse at three point shooting. the 3rd option has really gotten to his head. i truly believe if we offered up Kuz instead of Hart, N.O. would turn that down. |
He got better defensively |
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laker50 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:41 am Post subject: |
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where24happens wrote: | This guy was a huge reason we blew that lead in the 3rd. Completely unplayable the whole series. |
The best Kuzma can do now is not hurt the team.
In game saw at least 3 shoots that gave Nuggets life. You saw the airball?
Kuzma has to model himself after Caruso.
Play great defense and take shots that the other team gives. |
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:26 am Post subject: |
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laker50 wrote: | where24happens wrote: | This guy was a huge reason we blew that lead in the 3rd. Completely unplayable the whole series. |
The best Kuzma can do now is not hurt the team.
In game saw at least 3 shoots that gave Nuggets life. You saw the airball?
Kuzma has to model himself after Caruso.
Play great defense and take shots that the other team gives. |
he is taking shots other teams are given to him, sometimes he even turns them down. that's why i said earlier i feel sorry for him. before i agree, he takes ill advised shots all the time, but nowadays maybe he finally realizes he's suck, so he has been taking shots within the offense, but the problem is his shots are so bad even when wide open. |
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kobetimeeverytime Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Kuzma came into the league at an older age than other members of the young core. it's possible that he already had a developed game (by his standard) and just lower ceiling and growth trajectory. but im sure the role redundancy with Lebron/AD also doesn't help
he's still a serviceable player on a cheap contract but im definitely disappointed with his lack of development, especailly when there are so many young guys popping off this playoffs |
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