"Those Aren't Pillows" just doesn't work well between Will Smith and Kevin Hart. _________________ I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail.
I think the most frustrating part about both of these guys is the way they’ve achieved this pinnacle of success. Both had talent..Kevin in his early days was hilarious but in order to get to where they are now they really sold out. That’s just how the game works though..sad but can’t knock the hustle. I’ll sell my soul and make awful movies if it means I can achieve a net worth of close to a billion dollars. As much as I believe in upholding a high standard for yourself...there’s always a price. Congrats to them both - not expecting much out of this at all, just like the rest of their stuff.
Sold out or take what's offered? Kevin and Will seem suited for B films. Neither are Brando or Denzel. What roll would you give them to make them more relevant? They both have niches.
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:53 pm Post subject:
Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Snipes wrote:
I think the most frustrating part about both of these guys is the way they’ve achieved this pinnacle of success. Both had talent..Kevin in his early days was hilarious but in order to get to where they are now they really sold out. That’s just how the game works though..sad but can’t knock the hustle. I’ll sell my soul and make awful movies if it means I can achieve a net worth of close to a billion dollars. As much as I believe in upholding a high standard for yourself...there’s always a price. Congrats to them both - not expecting much out of this at all, just like the rest of their stuff.
Sold out or take what's offered? Kevin and Will seem suited for B films. Neither are Brando or Denzel. What roll would you give them to make them more relevant? They both have niches.
They're both at can write own check level.
That may be true but they're both B level film actors. My point is they both have niches. JMHO _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:10 am Post subject:
This one is a head scratcher.
Obvious question, “who asked for this?”
The original was great because of the separate dynamics of fat guy, skinny guy. Loudmouth salesman vs uptight yuppie. Comic vs staight man.
You already lost two out of the three comparisons. Does Will Smith become the straight man to Hart’s comedian?
Just seems like a needless update to a classic.
And that doesn’t mean I am not in favor of updates or remakes, just that they have to be sound/good.
Love to be proven wrong, but this movie is near and dear to my heart especially around Thanksgiving time.
Bye. _________________ "This trophy removes the most odious sentence in the English Language. It can never be said again that 'the Lakers have never beaten the Celtics.'" -Dr. Jerry Buss (1985) R.I.P., 33 x M.V.O.
I think the most frustrating part about both of these guys is the way they’ve achieved this pinnacle of success. Both had talent..Kevin in his early days was hilarious but in order to get to where they are now they really sold out. That’s just how the game works though..sad but can’t knock the hustle. I’ll sell my soul and make awful movies if it means I can achieve a net worth of close to a billion dollars. As much as I believe in upholding a high standard for yourself...there’s always a price. Congrats to them both - not expecting much out of this at all, just like the rest of their stuff.
Sold out or take what's offered? Kevin and Will seem suited for B films. Neither are Brando or Denzel. What roll would you give them to make them more relevant? They both have niches.
They're both at can write own check level.
That may be true but they're both B level film actors. My point is they both have niches. JMHO
Will Smith has been nominated TWICE for an Academy. Dude's the quintessential A-lister. Guy's movies consistently do well with the blockbuster thrown in here or there. He's been the feature for 20+ years. He's fo SHURE not a B-lister. _________________ KOBE
I think the most frustrating part about both of these guys is the way they’ve achieved this pinnacle of success. Both had talent..Kevin in his early days was hilarious but in order to get to where they are now they really sold out. That’s just how the game works though..sad but can’t knock the hustle. I’ll sell my soul and make awful movies if it means I can achieve a net worth of close to a billion dollars. As much as I believe in upholding a high standard for yourself...there’s always a price. Congrats to them both - not expecting much out of this at all, just like the rest of their stuff.
Sold out or take what's offered? Kevin and Will seem suited for B films. Neither are Brando or Denzel. What roll would you give them to make them more relevant? They both have niches.
They're both at can write own check level.
That may be true but they're both B level film actors. My point is they both have niches. JMHO
Will Smith has been nominated TWICE for an Academy. Dude's the quintessential A-lister. Guy's movies consistently do well with the blockbuster thrown in here or there. He's been the feature for 20+ years. He's fo SHURE not a B-lister.
The Fresh Prince is a D lister now, but Will Smith is an A lister. Marky Mark is a D lister, too. Mark Wahlberg? A. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
The quick answer is “nobody” but studios have figured out that they can slap old names on vague remakes and the name recognition will get peoples attention (which is half the battle). Other than a loose premise this movie will have nothing to do with that movie.
The original Planes didn’t invent anything and it wasn’t the first odd couple type movie. It was special and it endures because of John Candy and Steve Martin. Remove them and it’s just another forgettable movie, like this probably will be. _________________ 14-5-3-12
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:03 am Post subject:
gumby wrote:
And that doesn’t mean I am not in favor of updates or remakes, just that they have to be sound/good.
Agreed. There are things that can be remade, and done so well. That's because the story and concept are the core of the movie, not some other, organic element that can't be recreated
But with PTaA, the story and concept weren't at all the point. The chemistry and comedy provided by its two stars were the heart of the movie. There's no point in remaking that kind of movie. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:04 am Post subject:
ocho wrote:
The original Planes didn’t invent anything and it wasn’t the first odd couple type movie. It was special and it endures because of John Candy and Steve Martin. Remove them and it’s just another forgettable movie, like this probably will be.
EXACTLY! _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:09 am Post subject:
gumby wrote:
This one is a head scratcher.
Obvious question, “who asked for this?”
I'm guessing some studio exec when he asked if anyone had any new ideas for a movie and everyone in the room just went _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:54 pm Post subject:
non-player zealot wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Snipes wrote:
I think the most frustrating part about both of these guys is the way they’ve achieved this pinnacle of success. Both had talent..Kevin in his early days was hilarious but in order to get to where they are now they really sold out. That’s just how the game works though..sad but can’t knock the hustle. I’ll sell my soul and make awful movies if it means I can achieve a net worth of close to a billion dollars. As much as I believe in upholding a high standard for yourself...there’s always a price. Congrats to them both - not expecting much out of this at all, just like the rest of their stuff.
Sold out or take what's offered? Kevin and Will seem suited for B films. Neither are Brando or Denzel. What roll would you give them to make them more relevant? They both have niches.
They're both at can write own check level.
That may be true but they're both B level film actors. My point is they both have niches. JMHO
Will Smith has been nominated TWICE for an Academy. Dude's the quintessential A-lister. Guy's movies consistently do well with the blockbuster thrown in here or there. He's been the feature for 20+ years. He's fo SHURE not a B-lister.
The Fresh Prince is a D lister now, but Will Smith is an A lister. Marky Mark is a D lister, too. Mark Wahlberg? A.
I'm a Will Smith fan. I thought Independence Day and the MIB series were good movies. I don't class them A. But that's just me. Hell, I even like Wild Wild West.
Ride Along was a good movie, Kevin Hart and Ice Cube were great. My point is they are B movies. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:27 pm Post subject:
999 wrote:
Kevin hart is not funny to me at all. He seems like he is trying to hard to be the person he is
He’s not my cup of tea, although I have enjoyed some of his performances. When he tries to be a leading man or action star he falls short for me, feels forced, like Will Ferrell or Seth Rogan trying to do a serious role. He’s an excellent sidekick/comedic relief/lead in a lightweight comedy actor. He has some personality and charisma and chops for that. He’s not a very good actor. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
The quick answer is “nobody” but studios have figured out that they can slap old names on vague remakes and the name recognition will get peoples attention (which is half the battle). Other than a loose premise this movie will have nothing to do with that movie.
How about a remake of My Life as a Dog starring Alf?
I think the most frustrating part about both of these guys is the way they’ve achieved this pinnacle of success. Both had talent..Kevin in his early days was hilarious but in order to get to where they are now they really sold out. That’s just how the game works though..sad but can’t knock the hustle. I’ll sell my soul and make awful movies if it means I can achieve a net worth of close to a billion dollars. As much as I believe in upholding a high standard for yourself...there’s always a price. Congrats to them both - not expecting much out of this at all, just like the rest of their stuff.
Sold out or take what's offered? Kevin and Will seem suited for B films. Neither are Brando or Denzel. What roll would you give them to make them more relevant? They both have niches.
They both can and could have put out much better products but sold out for the money. Let’s not kid ourselves. You don’t have to accept every big offer, especially when you know it’s going to be horrible. Like I said I would do the same thing. (bleep) the art give me the money.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:38 am Post subject:
Snipes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Snipes wrote:
I think the most frustrating part about both of these guys is the way they’ve achieved this pinnacle of success. Both had talent..Kevin in his early days was hilarious but in order to get to where they are now they really sold out. That’s just how the game works though..sad but can’t knock the hustle. I’ll sell my soul and make awful movies if it means I can achieve a net worth of close to a billion dollars. As much as I believe in upholding a high standard for yourself...there’s always a price. Congrats to them both - not expecting much out of this at all, just like the rest of their stuff.
Sold out or take what's offered? Kevin and Will seem suited for B films. Neither are Brando or Denzel. What roll would you give them to make them more relevant? They both have niches.
They both can and could have put out much better products but sold out for the money. Let’s not kid ourselves. You don’t have to accept every big offer, especially when you know it’s going to be horrible. Like I said I would do the same thing. (bleep) the art give me the money.
You're assuming you they know the project is going to be horrible. They may think it's something people will like.
I don't think either are doing it for the money. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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