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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:20 am    Post subject:

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Last time the players union was given the option of cap smoothing, we ended up with KD on the Warriors and 2 championships.



Yeah, but this is such a different environment, I wouldn't focus too much on the past as a prediction of the future. From everything I've read, the players union has been more receptive to cap smoothing in informal talks they've had with owners. We'll see.
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"People down in Orlando tell me Lonzo Ball looked like he’d checked out the whole time the Pels were there, and that they expect some significant roster adjustments in New Orleans before next season."

- David Aldridge (Via The Athletic)


That Beal trade might be coming with Lonzo, Holiday + picks involved.

Between Nets and Pels most likely.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:23 pm    Post subject:

but... lOnZo iS aN aLl sTaR...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:25 pm    Post subject:

Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:27 pm    Post subject:

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Zubac. I guess some Lakers fans miss him.


I'd say these string of games is more impactful than McGee...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/z/zubaciv01/gamelog/2020



I am done with McGee.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:42 pm    Post subject:

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Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!


We'd structure the team better and not have Rondo?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:05 pm    Post subject:

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Who knows. The NBA/players union might decide to spread the pain around by artificially keeping the cap at $109 million, and then smoothing it


Last time the players union was given the option of cap smoothing, we ended up with KD on the Warriors and 2 championships.


I'm guessing the players are going to make this their primary solution, asking the owners to basically front the money to keep the cap high and offering to pay it back over time. I just don't expect the owners to go for it, at least not as the only or even primary strategy.

A blended strategy would be to increase the escrow and do some of this reverse smoothing (inflating the cap). That allows the existing structures to function (Free Agency, Salary Cap, Luxury Tax, Trade Rules) while spreading the pain across all players (instead of just free agents) and letting the Owners leverage their access to capital to keep the system liquid. Me thinks the owners are going to want some other concessions to agree to this approach though.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:06 pm    Post subject:

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[Amick] Plus, people down in Orlando tell me Lonzo Ball looked like he’d checked out the whole time the Pels were there, and that they expect some significant roster adjustments in New Orleans before next season And I don’t doubt that there may be a desire for a new coach in the Big Easy next season


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!



Last I saw, Lonzo looked like a guy that comes off the bench...Shame,
he has a talent but does not look engaged; too many distractions? maybe.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:38 pm    Post subject:

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Who knows. The NBA/players union might decide to spread the pain around by artificially keeping the cap at $109 million, and then smoothing it


Last time the players union was given the option of cap smoothing, we ended up with KD on the Warriors and 2 championships.


I'm guessing the players are going to make this their primary solution, asking the owners to basically front the money to keep the cap high and offering to pay it back over time. I just don't expect the owners to go for it, at least not as the only or even primary strategy.

A blended strategy would be to increase the escrow and do some of this reverse smoothing (inflating the cap). That allows the existing structures to function (Free Agency, Salary Cap, Luxury Tax, Trade Rules) while spreading the pain across all players (instead of just free agents) and letting the Owners leverage their access to capital to keep the system liquid. Me thinks the owners are going to want some other concessions to agree to this approach though.



I think they'll work out a deal like that. They'll probably increase the escrow amount significantly. But I don't expect them to let the cap drop to $60 million or something.
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Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!


But who knows -- maybe Ingram wouldn't have blossomed as a third banana here the way he did for the Pelicans as the #1 guy.
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Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!


But who knows -- maybe Ingram wouldn't have blossomed as a third banana here the way he did for the Pelicans as the #1 guy.


Ingram would still be better than Danny Green at $15m. Prove me wrong Danny.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:57 pm    Post subject:

Maybe I just missed it, but where is this info about Harkless and the Lakers coming from?
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activeverb wrote:
Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!


But who knows -- maybe Ingram wouldn't have blossomed as a third banana here the way he did for the Pelicans as the #1 guy.


Ingram would still be better than Danny Green at $15m. Prove me wrong Danny.


Life's too short to worry about what might have been. You waste it looking over the fence and wondering if someone else's grass is greener.
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activeverb wrote:
Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!


But who knows -- maybe Ingram wouldn't have blossomed as a third banana here the way he did for the Pelicans as the #1 guy.


Ingram would still be better than Danny Green at $15m. Prove me wrong Danny.


Life's too short to worry about what might have been. You waste it looking over the fence and wondering if someone else's grass is greener.


Thanks Dad. 😝

JK, you’re right.
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activeverb wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!


But who knows -- maybe Ingram wouldn't have blossomed as a third banana here the way he did for the Pelicans as the #1 guy.


Ingram would still be better than Danny Green at $15m. Prove me wrong Danny.


Life's too short to worry about what might have been. You waste it looking over the fence and wondering if someone else's grass is greener.


Thanks Dad. 😝

JK, you’re right.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:16 pm    Post subject:

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Zubac. I guess some Lakers fans miss him.


The only players I miss is Brandon Ingram and Larry Nance Jr those guys always played with effort for us.


You fib!

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I gotta admit I miss Zubac, he has developed into a very nice role player but I’m perfectly fine with Howard and McGee.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:21 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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Zubac. I guess some Lakers fans miss him.


I'd say these string of games is more impactful than McGee...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/z/zubaciv01/gamelog/2020


Offensively yep. Defensively, debatable.
I'm OK with our 3 headed monster at the center position.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:04 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!


But who knows -- maybe Ingram wouldn't have blossomed as a third banana here the way he did for the Pelicans as the #1 guy.


Ingram would still be better than Danny Green at $15m. Prove me wrong Danny.


Well, yeah. But in what world was that an option? You do know Ingram was traded for AD, not Danny Green, right?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:36 pm    Post subject:

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but... lOnZo iS aN aLl sTaR...


I'm ready for Lonzo to come back to the Lakers in 2022.
Make it happen!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:28 am    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
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epic_ wrote:
Zubac. I guess some Lakers fans miss him.


The only players I miss is Brandon Ingram and Larry Nance Jr those guys always played with effort for us.


You fib!

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I gotta admit I miss Zubac, he has developed into a very nice role player but I’m perfectly fine with Howard and McGee.


I’m a Laker fan at heart I miss all my kids but I only miss Larry Nance and Ingram the most haha
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:49 am    Post subject:

So the Bulls fired Jim Boylen, that’s something to keep a eye on because which ever coach they bring in will dictate what they do with Zach LaVine.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:35 am    Post subject:

anon123 wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
Could you imagine if we actually kept Lonzo and traded Kuz and Ingram?!


But who knows -- maybe Ingram wouldn't have blossomed as a third banana here the way he did for the Pelicans as the #1 guy.


Ingram would still be better than Danny Green at $15m. Prove me wrong Danny.


Well, yeah. But in what world was that an option? You do know Ingram was traded for AD, not Danny Green, right?


Nevermind the idea that BI is probably going to get signed for $22-30mil.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:17 am    Post subject:

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"People down in Orlando tell me Lonzo Ball looked like he’d checked out the whole time the Pels were there, and that they expect some significant roster adjustments in New Orleans before next season."

- David Aldridge (Via The Athletic)


That Beal trade might be coming with Lonzo, Holiday + picks involved.

Between Nets and Pels most likely.


Lonzo is in a weird spot. At one point he was an LA media darling drawing big crowds and having Magic all but put his jersey in the rafters. Now he's probably going to be in a contract year for a new coach with Zion and Ingram clearly ahead of him in the pecking order. That's to say nothing of Holiday.

As for Beal, if he's looking at pairing with KD and Kyrie in NY, vs Zion and Ingram in New Orleans, you gotta figure he's going to have some choice words for the Pels.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:22 am    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
chrisca91 wrote:
but... lOnZo iS aN aLl sTaR...


I'm ready for Lonzo to come back to the Lakers in 2022.
Make it happen!


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