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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:19 pm    Post subject:

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Okoro's growing on me.

I'm still skeptical Cole Anthony is a starting caliber PG in the NBA. Maybe like Mo Williams playing off a bigger initiator?


Read something how he basically played 70% all last year. But I don't think Cole had Mo's burst.

Definitely another 2 in a 1 body but at least showed some 1 acumen. These scoring guard types are a dime a dozen.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:58 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Okoro's growing on me.

I'm still skeptical Cole Anthony is a starting caliber PG in the NBA. Maybe like Mo Williams playing off a bigger initiator?


Read something how he basically played 70% all last year. But I don't think Cole had Mo's burst.

Definitely another 2 in a 1 body but at least showed some 1 acumen. These scoring guard types are a dime a dozen.


I believe there is just enough there for him to be a starter. His individual parts are just average to good but combined all together (athleticism, quickness, vertical, body control, shooting and ability to get his own offense) he could fit nicely as a starter. He is one where a longer wingspan would be a big asset.

Mike@LG by 70% do you mean physically?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:18 pm    Post subject:

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Mike@LG wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Okoro's growing on me.

I'm still skeptical Cole Anthony is a starting caliber PG in the NBA. Maybe like Mo Williams playing off a bigger initiator?


Read something how he basically played 70% all last year. But I don't think Cole had Mo's burst.

Definitely another 2 in a 1 body but at least showed some 1 acumen. These scoring guard types are a dime a dozen.


I believe there is just enough there for him to be a starter. His individual parts are just average to good but combined all together (athleticism, quickness, vertical, body control, shooting and ability to get his own offense) he could fit nicely as a starter. He is one where a longer wingspan would be a big asset.

Mike@LG by 70% do you mean physically?


Yes, I do mean physically.

Cole has to leap skillwise/athletically to get to starter level. My favorite player is out next draft. He'll easily steal that All Star spot.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:36 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Okoro's growing on me.

I'm still skeptical Cole Anthony is a starting caliber PG in the NBA. Maybe like Mo Williams playing off a bigger initiator?


Read something how he basically played 70% all last year. But I don't think Cole had Mo's burst.

Definitely another 2 in a 1 body but at least showed some 1 acumen. These scoring guard types are a dime a dozen.


I believe there is just enough there for him to be a starter. His individual parts are just average to good but combined all together (athleticism, quickness, vertical, body control, shooting and ability to get his own offense) he could fit nicely as a starter. He is one where a longer wingspan would be a big asset.

Mike@LG by 70% do you mean physically?


Yes, I do mean physically.

Cole has to leap skillwise/athletically to get to starter level. My favorite player is out next draft. He'll easily steal that All Star spot.


Thanks. Did not realize that. Always thought he looked more explosive in his high school vids and looked really good his first NC game. Had him top 5 but backed off a little recently.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:53 pm    Post subject:

Desmond Bane will never be Klay Thompson, but if you're trying to draft the "next Klay Thompson" in this draft, you should probably take Bane over Nesmith in the lottery.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:46 am    Post subject:

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Desmond Bane will never be Klay Thompson, but if you're trying to draft the "next Klay Thompson" in this draft, you should probably take Bane over Nesmith in the lottery.


My buddy Zach wrote this recently.

https://www.thestepien.com/2020/07/23/potential-draft-values-2nd-round-udfa-part-ii/
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:56 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Desmond Bane will never be Klay Thompson, but if you're trying to draft the "next Klay Thompson" in this draft, you should probably take Bane over Nesmith in the lottery.


My buddy Zach wrote this recently.

https://www.thestepien.com/2020/07/23/potential-draft-values-2nd-round-udfa-part-ii/

Danke! Good stuff. I've just started going back through some of their draft profiles and I'm really impressed with the work Zach and Pearlman are doing there.

Still miss Cole, though. Hearing him school Vecenie on Vecenie's draft podcast was always great.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:41 am    Post subject:

So what is the difference between Leandro Bolmaro and Deni Advija? Their talent look similar.

Could Bolmaro play as a big PG or initiate the offense at SF?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:58 am    Post subject:

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So what is the difference between Leandro Bolmaro and Deni Advija? Their talent look similar.

Could Bolmaro play as a big PG or initiate the offense at SF?


Avidja is more of a natural wing. Not the playmaker like Saric was in Europe, but more aggressive in terms of shooting and attacking. I think their movements are similar.

Bolmaro is like the archetype that Sun Yue was supposed to be. He just plays like a wing version of Rubio without the PG intangibles. Tremendous motor.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:17 pm    Post subject:

Also, both guys have worrisome shooting indicators, but Avdija's size gives him the chance of bulking up to PF where his jumper can be better "hidden" and his playmaking becomes more of a "bonus."

I think Bolmaro's an even better defensive prospect than Avdija - quicker feet and more fluid hips when defending poa with equal motors and near equal instincts (Avdija plays defense smarter now) - but without a significant improvement from Leandro as a shooter, it'll be much harder to leverage his secondary creator skills from the perimeter except situationally off the bench.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:02 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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So what is the difference between Leandro Bolmaro and Deni Advija? Their talent look similar.

Could Bolmaro play as a big PG or initiate the offense at SF?


Avidja is more of a natural wing. Not the playmaker like Saric was in Europe, but more aggressive in terms of shooting and attacking. I think their movements are similar.

Bolmaro is like the archetype that Sun Yue was supposed to be. He just plays like a wing version of Rubio without the PG intangibles. Tremendous motor.


Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Also, both guys have worrisome shooting indicators, but Avdija's size gives him the chance of bulking up to PF where his jumper can be better "hidden" and his playmaking becomes more of a "bonus."

I think Bolmaro's an even better defensive prospect than Avdija - quicker feet and more fluid hips when defending poa with equal motors and near equal instincts (Avdija plays defense smarter now) - but without a significant improvement from Leandro as a shooter, it'll be much harder to leverage his secondary creator skills from the perimeter except situationally off the bench.


Thanks agree with what you both stated. It appears both did not receive much court time and have sub par stats like most young international prospects.

Kind of leaves me skeptical but I always like prospects who can create for others or themselves and Bolmaro flashes those skills.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:06 pm    Post subject:

Just a quick question.

Would you trade the Lakers 1st for a talent like Ignas Brezdeikis?

I do realize you lose years of control.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:57 pm    Post subject:

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Just a quick question.

Would you trade the Lakers 1st for a talent like Ignas Brezdeikis?

I do realize you lose years of control.


I wouldn't only because I see him more as a combo forward, rather than a 3/2.

As for Avdija, his 3pt shooting has improved recently, even if the FT% hasn't.
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Just a quick question.

Would you trade the Lakers 1st for a talent like Ignas Brezdeikis?

I do realize you lose years of control.

Depends on who's off the board, but I do like Iggy B.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:31 pm    Post subject:

Terry is staying in.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:19 pm    Post subject:

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Lakers pick:

With Xavier Tillman withdrawing, my choices as the Lakers draft guru by proxy are given likely available options (in order):

Desmond Bane
Devon Dotson
Grant Riller
Killian Tillie

Throw Mason Jones in there, as well. Really fun player.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:23 pm    Post subject:

Joe going back to Arkansas.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:46 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Lakers pick:

With Xavier Tillman withdrawing, my choices as the Lakers draft guru by proxy are given likely available options (in order):

Desmond Bane
Devon Dotson
Grant Riller
Killian Tillie

Throw Mason Jones in there, as well. Really fun player.


Yes on Jones. The offense ran through him this season including initiating the offense as a primary ball handler. Really diverse offensive game.

Maybe too lofty a comparison but I see Brandon Roy in him.

As for Joe I initially focused on him but it was Jones who impressed. Right decision for Joe to go back to school and Mike@LG had mentioned he played injured this past season.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:47 pm    Post subject:

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Terry is staying in.


I just have the bad feeling the Celtics will grab him before the Lakers pick.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:35 pm    Post subject:

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Terry is staying in.


I just have the bad feeling the Celtics will grab him before the Lakers pick.


Let them.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:36 pm    Post subject:

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Desmond Bane
Devon Dotson
Grant Riller
Killian Tillie


Riller
Tillman
Bane
Dotson
Tillie

I'd put Tillie right up there with Riller if he was actually healthy.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:48 am    Post subject:

Tillman in.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:07 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Tillman in.


Tillman or Zeke Nnaji?

Nnaji is the one I really would like to see fall to the Lakers but I have my doubts he will.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:37 am    Post subject:

PlantedTanks wrote:
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Tillman in.


Tillman or Zeke Nnaji?

Nnaji is the one I really would like to see fall to the Lakers but I have my doubts he will.


Honestly haven't paid enough attention to Nnaji.

Tillman just feels like the guy who knows what to do from the jump and has an NBA body. Facilitates to veterans.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:34 pm    Post subject:

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Tillman in.


Tillman or Zeke Nnaji?

Nnaji is the one I really would like to see fall to the Lakers but I have my doubts he will.

I don't understand the appeal of Nnaji. Big men need to defend at the rim otherwise they're useless.

I'm not as high on Tillman as some others, but he's obviously a pro who should stick as a useful third big. If you think his jumper comes around, then he's a lot more interesting and would have a narrow pathway towards starting.

Nnaji will score more and look cool doing it, but I'd trust Tillman to have a positive impact as a defender and passer. The good news is that NBA scouts seem irrationally high on bigs like Nnaji and Oturu, so Tillman should be available to the Lakers at 29 and into the 2nd round if they try to buy a pick.
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