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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:29 am    Post subject:

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The Lakers are still undefeated (17-0) in Western Conference arenas outside of L.A., having shut down the Nuggets' offense in overtime on Wednesday. They closed that game with Alex Caruso, who ranks eighth on the Lakers in total minutes, but fourth on the team in clutch minutes, having been on the floor down the stretch of 17 of their 23 games that have been within five in the last five.

Caruso has taken just five shots in his 44 clutch minutes and he ranks 269th in usage rate among 314 players who have played at least 500 minutes, but most of his value is on the other end of the floor. He ranks eighth in deflections per 36 minutes and the 94.2 points per 100 possessions that the Lakers have allowed with Caruso and LeBron James on the floor together is the best mark among 674 two-man combinations that have played at least 400 minutes.


https://www.nba.com/powerrankings/2019-20-week-18

I mean, the case is closed on Rondo v. Caruso, right? Can we just end it already?
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The Lakers are still undefeated (17-0) in Western Conference arenas outside of L.A., having shut down the Nuggets' offense in overtime on Wednesday. They closed that game with Alex Caruso, who ranks eighth on the Lakers in total minutes, but fourth on the team in clutch minutes, having been on the floor down the stretch of 17 of their 23 games that have been within five in the last five.

Caruso has taken just five shots in his 44 clutch minutes and he ranks 269th in usage rate among 314 players who have played at least 500 minutes, but most of his value is on the other end of the floor. He ranks eighth in deflections per 36 minutes and the 94.2 points per 100 possessions that the Lakers have allowed with Caruso and LeBron James on the floor together is the best mark among 674 two-man combinations that have played at least 400 minutes.


https://www.nba.com/powerrankings/2019-20-week-18

I mean, the case is closed on Rondo v. Caruso, right? Can we just end it already?


That is why ithe only move I like to make is harkless if he becomes available. Caruso and Cook is better than anyone out there.
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The Lakers are still undefeated (17-0) in Western Conference arenas outside of L.A., having shut down the Nuggets' offense in overtime on Wednesday. They closed that game with Alex Caruso, who ranks eighth on the Lakers in total minutes, but fourth on the team in clutch minutes, having been on the floor down the stretch of 17 of their 23 games that have been within five in the last five.

Caruso has taken just five shots in his 44 clutch minutes and he ranks 269th in usage rate among 314 players who have played at least 500 minutes, but most of his value is on the other end of the floor. He ranks eighth in deflections per 36 minutes and the 94.2 points per 100 possessions that the Lakers have allowed with Caruso and LeBron James on the floor together is the best mark among 674 two-man combinations that have played at least 400 minutes.


https://www.nba.com/powerrankings/2019-20-week-18

I mean, the case is closed on Rondo v. Caruso, right? Can we just end it already?


That is why ithe only move I like to make is harkless if he becomes available. Caruso and Cook is better than anyone out there.


I would actually endorse three moves if Mo is made available.

1. sign Mo Harkless (addresses wing defender).
2. sign Waiters or JR Smith (addresses wing scorer).
3. permanently move Rondo to 3rd string (in emergencies only) PG. Sit next to Dudley.
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The Lakers are still undefeated (17-0) in Western Conference arenas outside of L.A., having shut down the Nuggets' offense in overtime on Wednesday. They closed that game with Alex Caruso, who ranks eighth on the Lakers in total minutes, but fourth on the team in clutch minutes, having been on the floor down the stretch of 17 of their 23 games that have been within five in the last five.

Caruso has taken just five shots in his 44 clutch minutes and he ranks 269th in usage rate among 314 players who have played at least 500 minutes, but most of his value is on the other end of the floor. He ranks eighth in deflections per 36 minutes and the 94.2 points per 100 possessions that the Lakers have allowed with Caruso and LeBron James on the floor together is the best mark among 674 two-man combinations that have played at least 400 minutes.


https://www.nba.com/powerrankings/2019-20-week-18

I mean, the case is closed on Rondo v. Caruso, right? Can we just end it already?


That is why ithe only move I like to make is harkless if he becomes available. Caruso and Cook is better than anyone out there.


I would actually endorse three moves if Mo is made available.

1. sign Mo Harkless (addresses wing defender).
2. sign Waiters or JR Smith (addresses wing scorer).
3. permanently move Rondo to 3rd string (in emergencies only) PG. Sit next to Dudley.


Only want to do one move to replace Daniels. Playoff is different cook, Dudley and rondo have shown they can show up. 1) Harkless if not 2) JR or waiters as backup plans.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:59 am    Post subject:

41-12.........
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The Lakers are still undefeated (17-0) in Western Conference arenas outside of L.A., having shut down the Nuggets' offense in overtime on Wednesday. They closed that game with Alex Caruso, who ranks eighth on the Lakers in total minutes, but fourth on the team in clutch minutes, having been on the floor down the stretch of 17 of their 23 games that have been within five in the last five.

Caruso has taken just five shots in his 44 clutch minutes and he ranks 269th in usage rate among 314 players who have played at least 500 minutes, but most of his value is on the other end of the floor. He ranks eighth in deflections per 36 minutes and the 94.2 points per 100 possessions that the Lakers have allowed with Caruso and LeBron James on the floor together is the best mark among 674 two-man combinations that have played at least 400 minutes.


https://www.nba.com/powerrankings/2019-20-week-18

I mean, the case is closed on Rondo v. Caruso, right? Can we just end it already?


That is why ithe only move I like to make is harkless if he becomes available. Caruso and Cook is better than anyone out there.


I would actually endorse three moves if Mo is made available.

1. sign Mo Harkless (addresses wing defender).
2. sign Waiters or JR Smith (addresses wing scorer).
3. permanently move Rondo to 3rd string (in emergencies only) PG. Sit next to Dudley.


Only want to do one move to replace Daniels. Playoff is different cook, Dudley and rondo have shown they can show up. 1) Harkless if not 2) JR or waiters as backup plans.


I've seen enough from Rondo to know that the light switch barely flickers. He may have a game or two where he can spark something, but he cannot be our primary backup PG. He gives up too much defensively and on offense, really bogs things down.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:04 am    Post subject:

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41-12.........


I don't think the Lakers hang up regular season banners. But maybe they will now?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:06 am    Post subject:

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41-12.........

Bucks are 46-8 yet still went out and signed Marvin Williams

There’s no reason for us not to upgrade
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:09 am    Post subject:

Harkless is first priority. If you get him, go out with a 10 man rotation during the playoffs that looks like this:

James - Caruso
Bradley - KCP
Green - Harkless
Davis - Kuzma
McGee - Howard

Play Rondo, Dudley, Cook and Cousins if absolutely need be

If you can’t get Harkless, sign someone like Waiters, IT or Burke to be an offensive upgrade on Rondo at the very least. Doesn’t solve our wing defender problem, but at least solves our Rondo problem
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:11 am    Post subject:

Unreal people are b!tching and moaning over scrap heap players.......
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:12 am    Post subject:

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Unreal people are b!tching and moaning over scrap heap players.......


Missing the point.

It's not the players.

It's NOT addressing two glaring weaknesses. We're here b/c over summer FA/trade deadline we didn't address them. Now we have to look at scrap heap players b/c...that's all there is.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:15 am    Post subject:

Whatever happens this year, happens.

After seeing stuff like this. Emotions are still powerful.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/allen-iverson-dwyane-wade-hug-at-all-star-game-after-kobe-tribute/amp
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:18 am    Post subject:

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Unreal people are b!tching and moaning over scrap heap players.......


Missing the point.

It's not the players.

It's NOT addressing two glaring weaknesses. We're here b/c over summer FA/trade deadline we didn't address them. Now we have to look at scrap heap players b/c...that's all there is.

The amazing thing is that we actually created one of those problems through not who we didn’t sign, but by who we DID sign (Rondo)

Still can’t believe we thought it was a good idea to have Rondo in our rotation. 3rd string is the perfect role for him for the stage in his career he is in and the way the game is currently played (fast pace, perimeter-centric)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:18 am    Post subject:

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I think if one watches Danny Green on his podcast
You will hear him talk about the closeness of this team
Other than cutting THT
I don’t think the Lakers really wanted to cut a guy on this very close team

They may not win it all, and truth is Clippers are way more talented than us as a team. We are more talented with a big 2, but as a team the Clips way more talented on offense. So even with one move. Where you cut a family member you don’t really gain talent wise edge over the Clips as a team.

The Lakers did the right thing. Win or lose, I support these guys. They rode it out, and they’re brothers to each other. With all that’s gone on the last month, I just want to see this group go all out in the playoffs and results be what they are.


This post is so immature.

It's professional sports not ur family
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:19 am    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
Whatever happens this year, happens.

After seeing stuff like this. Emotions are still powerful.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/allen-iverson-dwyane-wade-hug-at-all-star-game-after-kobe-tribute/amp

You’re referencing two retired players, two current non-Lakers. Yes I get the Kobe premise but it’s not the biggest case to not make a move at all
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:22 am    Post subject:

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Everyone going crazy losing a guy who is shooting 38% for the season? Another inefficient chucker? Not sure what the Clips are doing signing all these guys who are ball dominant guys. These guys need the ball in their hands to be effective. You have like 4-5 guys on that roster now? Like Perkins said, there is only one ball.


Oh it's clear what they are doing. They are trying to (bleep) block the Lakers from improving their weaknesses, all the guys they have been linked to would fill the shot creating/playmaking and wing defender holes - Collison, Jackson, Iggy, Morris - they are intentionally trying to chase guys the Lakers could use, even if it's just to soak up some regular season minutes to reduce the load on LBJ.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:25 am    Post subject:

The truth is, Jackson would have fit us like a glove, but there was no way in hell he was coming here. If his agent wasn’t Mintz he’d be a Laker IMO

It’s not like there’s no other options that are an upgrade out there, though
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:31 am    Post subject:

alleyoop wrote:
Harlemlakerfan wrote:
41-12.........

Bucks are 46-8 yet still went out and signed Marvin Williams

There’s no reason for us not to upgrade


There is also some skepticism with the Bucks, their schedule and what happens when you neutralize Giannis into a perimeter player.

If the Lakers aren’t making any moves, their key to success is expanded roles for Caruso and Dwight imo. At least they are positive impact players off the bench. They need to get the minutes over Rondo and Kuzma.

Rondo and Kuzma can get spot minutes and see if they are contributing, but short leash.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:34 am    Post subject:

Like Yinoma said, if chemistry was so critical why even publicly entertain Collison.

Seems like an excuse for once again not having anything more than Plan A.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:36 am    Post subject:

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Harlemlakerfan wrote:
41-12.........

Bucks are 46-8 yet still went out and signed Marvin Williams

There’s no reason for us not to upgrade


There is also some skepticism with the Bucks, their schedule and what happens when you neutralize Giannis into a perimeter player.

If the Lakers aren’t making any moves, their key to success is expanded roles for Caruso and Dwight imo. At least they are positive impact players off the bench. They need to get the minutes over Rondo and Kuzma.

Rondo and Kuzma can get spot minutes and see if they are contributing, but short leash.

I’m fine with Kuzma keeping his minutes, at the very least he’s a guy that can make an impact every 4 or 5 games (*could* win us a game a playoff series) and shoot consistently well from the corner when given the chance. Rondo is just a two-way liability

Do agree on expanding Caruso and Dwight’s roles, though (although IMO that doesn’t mean ‘Dwight should start’)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:42 am    Post subject:

Good point.
Once Alex takes most of rondos minutes, we'll be hitting big-time.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:45 am    Post subject:

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Like Yinoma said, if chemistry was so critical why even publicly entertain Collison.

Seems like an excuse for once again not having anything more than Plan A.


Because chemistry vs talent isn’t a binary discussion.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:49 am    Post subject:

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Like Yinoma said, if chemistry was so critical why even publicly entertain Collison.

Seems like an excuse for once again not having anything more than Plan A.


Because chemistry vs talent isn’t a binary discussion.


It was a pretty public and tacit admission by the Lakers that they need help at PG. It was pretty embarrassing parading around Darren like that to be honest.

And yes, some of the buyout guys are being bought out for a reason (i.e. not great anymore). But standing pat is not an acceptable outcome to me b/c those weaknesses are going to be exposed big time in the playoffs, particularly against teams like the Clips/Bucks.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:53 am    Post subject:

Daniels and cook can't beat Caruso for mins lol

But let's keep them around in the name of chemistry

Like sdlaker said we don't have any plans b or c
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:56 am    Post subject:

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Like Yinoma said, if chemistry was so critical why even publicly entertain Collison.

Seems like an excuse for once again not having anything more than Plan A.


Because chemistry vs talent isn’t a binary discussion.


It was a pretty public and tacit admission by the Lakers that they need help at PG. It was pretty embarrassing parading around Darren like that to be honest.

And yes, some of the buyout guys are being bought out for a reason (i.e. not great anymore). But standing pat is not an acceptable outcome to me b/c those weaknesses are going to be exposed big time in the playoffs, particularly against teams like the Clips/Bucks.


Traded all the present and future for a soft ass 2nd option and then relaxing and not adding anybody in the name of chemistry

Lol Rob is a bum
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