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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject:

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That Warriors team with KD was far more dangerous than this Clippers team.

It's too dependent on KL's long-term health.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:52 pm    Post subject:

honestly yeah if I were a clippers fan I'd be genuinely worried about KL long-term

there's just so little info out there re: his injury
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:54 pm    Post subject:

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When people say the Clippers haven't played with their full roster yet, why do they act like that's a good thing? That's something that could be a season long issue for them.


They kinda remind me of the 14-15 Cavs. I saw that starting lineup and knew it was doomed from day 1. Lebron with Kyrie/Love/Varejao. And sure enough, they all went down that year. Beverley/Kawhi/PG give me that same vibe, but part of me is secretly terrified that they'll all be healthy come playoff time, lol. They could easily be down a man or two, though.

even when Kawhi is "healthy" his degenerative leg cant take the toll of the NBA playoffs. He will be slowed down after the first series.


Yes, he couldn’t survive the playoffs last season.


With PG there, the Clips will probably play both very carefully now. They won't run them ragged.

Personally I want the Lakers to complete the team with the necessary parts to beat the Clippers or any other team, regardless of who they have.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:25 pm    Post subject:

If I were the Clips I’d play them alternating games, try to minimize the mileage up to playoffs.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:16 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:18 pm    Post subject:

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honestly yeah if I were a clippers fan I'd be genuinely worried about KL long-term

there's just so little info out there re: his injury


Nothing to worry about... nothing at all. :evilgrin:
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:07 pm    Post subject:

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Los Angeles Clippers forward Kawhi Leonard will miss Monday’s game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, sources told ESPN.

Leonard hasn’t played since suffering a left knee contusion in the second half of the Clippers loss to the Houston Rockets on Wednesday.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:18 pm    Post subject:

Lakers have played in 3 of the top 5 rated (TV audience) games this season. Overall though viewership is declining.

Yep, Lakers the only team that matters

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019/11/nba-ratings-tnt-espn-nhl-nbcsn-college-hoops/
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:19 pm    Post subject:

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Los Angeles Clippers forward Kawhi Leonard will miss Monday’s game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, sources told ESPN.

Leonard hasn’t played since suffering a left knee contusion in the second half of the Clippers loss to the Houston Rockets on Wednesday.


Paul George is more important to the Clippers anyway. Kawhi's just a good player these days ... when he's available.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:55 pm    Post subject:

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Los Angeles Clippers forward Kawhi Leonard will miss Monday’s game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, sources told ESPN.

Leonard hasn’t played since suffering a left knee contusion in the second half of the Clippers loss to the Houston Rockets on Wednesday.


Paul George is more important to the Clippers anyway. Kawhi's just a good player these days ... when he's available.


LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:00 pm    Post subject:

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Los Angeles Clippers forward Kawhi Leonard will miss Monday’s game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, sources told ESPN.

Leonard hasn’t played since suffering a left knee contusion in the second half of the Clippers loss to the Houston Rockets on Wednesday.


Paul George is more important to the Clippers anyway. Kawhi's just a good player these days ... when he's available.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:06 pm    Post subject:

Funny to see how the narrative has changed with Leonard.

Comments about his health and leg issues made during free agency were generally dismissed and at times mocked.

Same player, same leg issue but now it is undesirable because he is a Clipper problem?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:09 pm    Post subject:

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Funny to see how the narrative has changed with Leonard.

Comments about his health and leg issues made during free agency were generally dismissed and at times mocked.

Same player, same leg issue but now it is undesirable because he is a Clipper problem?


Not that many people were really paying attention to Kawhi and the East last year, they wouldn't have really understood the severity of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:12 pm    Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
Funny to see how the narrative has changed with Leonard.

Comments about his health and leg issues made during free agency were generally dismissed and at times mocked.

Same player, same leg issue but now it is undesirable because he is a Clipper problem?

I mean, it's obvious why isn't it? Lebron + AD + a hobbled Kawhi is far better than anything the rest of the league could put together, considering he wouldn't have gone to the Clippers.

PG + hobbled Kawhi is far more debatable.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:18 pm    Post subject:

levon wrote:
Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
Funny to see how the narrative has changed with Leonard.

Comments about his health and leg issues made during free agency were generally dismissed and at times mocked.

Same player, same leg issue but now it is undesirable because he is a Clipper problem?

I mean, it's obvious why isn't it? Lebron + AD + a hobbled Kawhi is far better than anything the rest of the league could put together, considering he wouldn't have gone to the Clippers.

PG + hobbled Kawhi is far more debatable.


I’m not convinced he’s hobbled. The league has said he can’t sit without having an official injury listed. They’re just gaming the system. I’m sure he could play if he needed to.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:23 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
levon wrote:
Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
Funny to see how the narrative has changed with Leonard.

Comments about his health and leg issues made during free agency were generally dismissed and at times mocked.

Same player, same leg issue but now it is undesirable because he is a Clipper problem?

I mean, it's obvious why isn't it? Lebron + AD + a hobbled Kawhi is far better than anything the rest of the league could put together, considering he wouldn't have gone to the Clippers.

PG + hobbled Kawhi is far more debatable.


I’m not convinced he’s hobbled. The league has said he can’t sit without having an official injury listed. They’re just gaming the system. I’m sure he could play if he needed to.

He hasn't really been a worldbeater in the games he has played either. I do agree that there's a degree of asset protection going on here.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:25 pm    Post subject:

The chart below shows Giannis heading for another MVP this season

... but the real question is, where is Kawhi on that chart?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJqmSyhUcAAsKFe?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:30 pm    Post subject:

levon wrote:
ocho wrote:
levon wrote:
Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
Funny to see how the narrative has changed with Leonard.

Comments about his health and leg issues made during free agency were generally dismissed and at times mocked.

Same player, same leg issue but now it is undesirable because he is a Clipper problem?

I mean, it's obvious why isn't it? Lebron + AD + a hobbled Kawhi is far better than anything the rest of the league could put together, considering he wouldn't have gone to the Clippers.

PG + hobbled Kawhi is far more debatable.


I’m not convinced he’s hobbled. The league has said he can’t sit without having an official injury listed. They’re just gaming the system. I’m sure he could play if he needed to.

He hasn't really been a worldbeater in the games he has played either. I do agree that there's a degree of asset protection going on here.


Hasn’t been a world beater? He’s putting up 27/9/6 (all career highs) while leading the league in 4th quarter scoring.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:37 pm    Post subject:

All of Kawhi's misses have been flat and he's had really really inefficient starts to games, where he just doesn't look like a good player..and doesn't live up to any good standard on defense. He looks like post-groin Lebron..who still ultimately got numbers, but just didn't look/play great. If Lebron was having stretches in every game like Kawhi, and looking not great athletically, and sitting out games... man, the #washed talk would be at an all time high.
We at least gotta admit he looks like post-groin Lebron..... it's definitely something... obviously he can possibly recover, but it's obvious somethings amiss
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:41 pm    Post subject:

Have we talked about Oladipo as a potential signing in 2 years? If James opted out and took a little less that would be one potent core. The kid is a descent facilitator, stud defender and well rounded player, an ideal fit.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:48 pm    Post subject:

^rather have bradley Beal if Lakers can afford than get oladipo
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:50 pm    Post subject:

healthy Dipo is a lot better than Beal I'm pretty sure.. But who knows how his knee will heal. Beal's 3pt% aint even above average anymore, for a couple years
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:50 pm    Post subject:

fansincemagic wrote:
Have we talked about Oladipo as a potential signing in 2 years? If James opted out and took a little less that would be one potent core. The kid is a descent facilitator, stud defender and well rounded player, an ideal fit.

Bradley or Caruso(resigned)
Oladipo
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LeBron take a little less than the $41,002,273 that he could make if he doesn't opt out?


How much money is a little less?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
The chart below shows Giannis heading for another MVP this season

... but the real question is, where is Kawhi on that chart?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJqmSyhUcAAsKFe?format=jpg&name=4096x4096


Kawhi only cares about Finals MVPs!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:03 pm    Post subject:

Bard207 wrote:
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Have we talked about Oladipo as a potential signing in 2 years? If James opted out and took a little less that would be one potent core. The kid is a descent facilitator, stud defender and well rounded player, an ideal fit.

Bradley or Caruso(resigned)
Oladipo
Kuzma
James
Davis



LeBron take a little less than the $41,002,273 that he could make if he doesn't opt out?


How much money is a little less?


I don’t know of any reason he might opt out other than to sign a max at the new cap number. If he does opt out and signs a 3-5 year deal, would it trigger the Over 38 rule? That could be painful.
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