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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:17 pm    Post subject:

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Our bench was outscored 60 - 19.


2 of their "bench" shouldn't be bench..

Lou and Harrell are way better than Shamet and patterson.. so that's kind of a misnomer
Tru dat but still...... we need more firepower coming off the bench.


Kuz will help out.. but he's streaky also.

Rondo will help out with limiting the turnovers as well.

we are still 1 player away.. IGGY would be amazing.

he can guard kawhi and hit the 3.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:22 pm    Post subject:

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AD and lebron can't both have off nights against the leagues top tier teams.

when we had shaq and kobe.. it was the same.. at least one of them had to play well.
Except Shaq was in his prime and Kobe was Frobe.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:22 pm    Post subject:

Thugnomoe wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Thugnomoe wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Our bench was outscored 60 - 19.


2 of their "bench" shouldn't be bench..

Lou and Harrell are way better than Shamet and patterson.. so that's kind of a misnomer
Tru dat but still...... we need more firepower coming off the bench.


Kuz will help out.. but he's streaky also.

Rondo will help out with limiting the turnovers as well.

we are still 1 player away.. IGGY would be amazing.

he can guard kawhi and hit the 3.


Kuzma and Iggy would plug up most of the team's holes. 3rd scorer, backup facilitator/3&d player
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:38 pm    Post subject:

nickuku wrote:
Thugnomoe wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Thugnomoe wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Our bench was outscored 60 - 19.


2 of their "bench" shouldn't be bench..

Lou and Harrell are way better than Shamet and patterson.. so that's kind of a misnomer
Tru dat but still...... we need more firepower coming off the bench.


Kuz will help out.. but he's streaky also.

Rondo will help out with limiting the turnovers as well.

we are still 1 player away.. IGGY would be amazing.

he can guard kawhi and hit the 3.


Kuzma and Iggy would plug up most of the team's holes. 3rd scorer, backup facilitator/3&d player


that gives me comfort until I realize that PG didn't even play.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:05 pm    Post subject:

While I would have liked a win, this truly means nothing.

My biggest takeaway is Green. Even if he only averages half of what he had tonight, that is a big time get.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:24 pm    Post subject:

Thugnomoe wrote:
nickuku wrote:
Thugnomoe wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Thugnomoe wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Our bench was outscored 60 - 19.


2 of their "bench" shouldn't be bench..

Lou and Harrell are way better than Shamet and patterson.. so that's kind of a misnomer
Tru dat but still...... we need more firepower coming off the bench.


Kuz will help out.. but he's streaky also.

Rondo will help out with limiting the turnovers as well.

we are still 1 player away.. IGGY would be amazing.

he can guard kawhi and hit the 3.


Kuzma and Iggy would plug up most of the team's holes. 3rd scorer, backup facilitator/3&d player


that gives me comfort until I realize that PG didn't even play.


If PG had played they may have looked as out of sorts as the Lakers did tonight. They’d be incorporating two guys instead of one. He would also take shots away from their other guys so there’s no way to know how those would’ve gone. He could’ve spent most of the night trying to find a rhythm and they wouldn’t have gotten those big runs.

Hopefully we see an improvement next game. When LBJ and AD stopped attacking rom the wing and started trying to force the ball inside it fell apart. I think they need to go back to that.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:36 pm    Post subject:

All in all, a great battle to open the season
But the refs ruined the game with a lot of momentum changing ticky tack fouls favoring the Clips.

We’ll see them soon
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:53 am    Post subject:

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Sign Jamal Crawford to shore up the bench scoring. He'd be our answer to Lou Wms.


No
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:56 am    Post subject:

Thugnomoe wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Our bench was outscored 60 - 19.


2 of their "bench" shouldn't be bench..

Lou and Harrell are way better than Shamet and patterson.. so that's kind of a misnomer


That’s what happens when you have a FO that knows how to build a team, not just name drop.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:01 am    Post subject:

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Ball into Lebron and the movement stops. Ball into Davis and the movement stops. Lebron and Davis go iso. Didn't folks complain about Brandon "iso" Ingram last season???

The Lakers "Big 2" with only 11 points in the second half, with Davis completely shut down.

As another poster said, what we saw tonight is a staple of a Lebron team, except Lebron is no longer playing in the East. Long season ahead.

What happened all the beautiful ball movement we saw in the 1st quarter and preseason.Way to many ISO's to Davis the Clippers were sending a second defender every time and no one's cutting.LeBron shouldn't be bringing the ball up the court.Rotations looked just like Walton's.Javale disappeared.Very disappointing.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:16 am    Post subject:

That line up with Cook/Troy/KCP/Dudley/Howard is just not going too work... That line up lost us the game.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:49 am    Post subject:

We looked worse than last year and that's saying something. Aside from better shooting we looked afraid to attack.

AD looks soft to me, highly unimpressed. Looks like a stat stuffer and not somebody playing to win
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:49 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
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Sign Jamal Crawford to shore up the bench scoring. He'd be our answer to Lou Wms.


No


Crawford is 55 years old. Maybe 10 years ago, not now.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:56 am    Post subject:

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We looked worse than last year and that's saying something. Aside from better shooting we looked afraid to attack.

AD looks soft to me, highly unimpressed. Looks like a
stat stuffer and not somebody playing to win


No, what we saw was a new team. 9 new players that have never played together. New coaching staff figuring out what rotations work best.
What we saw is a clippers team that already has chemistry and already has a system. They just inserted Leonard into it.

As expected, the clippers are going to be really good. Let’s not act surprised folks.
The Lakers need time to mesh.
This actually was a great way to start the season..
Gives them a gauge of what works

Not crying over this. I agree with most comments here. This team will need to figure things out and they will.

Keep in mind, it was game 1
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:03 am    Post subject:

Thugnomoe wrote:
AD and lebron can't both have off nights against the leagues top tier teams.

when we had shaq and kobe.. it was the same.. at least one of them had to play well.


Please dont compare Kobe and Shaq to Lebron and AD, it is disrespectful to 2 Laker greats. Lebron and AD havent won diddly squat yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:00 am    Post subject:

al242 wrote:
Thugnomoe wrote:
AD and lebron can't both have off nights against the leagues top tier teams.

when we had shaq and kobe.. it was the same.. at least one of them had to play well.


Please dont compare Kobe and Shaq to Lebron and AD, it is disrespectful to 2 Laker greats. Lebron and AD havent won diddly squat yet.


Exactly. That’s jumping ahead. Shaq was 24 and Kobe 17 when they joined up and they had the great Phil Jackson coaching them will amazing role players.
That’s like comparing apples and bananas
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:50 am    Post subject:

The way I'm going to spin this is that we miss Kuzma, and I prefer PG13 on the court taking shots away from the more efficient Kawhi.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:57 am    Post subject:

Round 1 to the Clips; 3 more battles to go. The coaches need to make a few adjustments and we will be just fine. Bring on the Jazz & Hornets!!!

GO LAKERS!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:09 am    Post subject:

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The way I'm going to spin this is that we miss Kuzma, and I prefer PG13 on the court taking shots away from the more efficient Kawhi.


I'm not getting my hopes up about Kuzma. He's way too streaky and doesn't bring anything on defense. I look at his return as having one more dice to roll. You don't know what you'll get.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:57 am    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
al242 wrote:
Thugnomoe wrote:
AD and lebron can't both have off nights against the leagues top tier teams.

when we had shaq and kobe.. it was the same.. at least one of them had to play well.


Please dont compare Kobe and Shaq to Lebron and AD, it is disrespectful to 2 Laker greats. Lebron and AD havent won diddly squat yet.


Exactly. That’s jumping ahead. Shaq was 24 and Kobe 17 when they joined up and they had the great Phil Jackson coaching them will amazing role players.
That’s like comparing apples and bananas


I'm not comparing their careers.. I'm saying that they just both can't have off nights because they're our duo. Kobe and Shaq were our best players back then and when they both had bad nights.. we lost.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:39 am    Post subject:

Fact is the Lakers were out played and out coached. Sweet Lou got his revenge. Hopefully Rondo's return will allow LeBron the freedom to play less point.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:50 pm    Post subject:

Thugnomoe wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
al242 wrote:
Thugnomoe wrote:
AD and lebron can't both have off nights against the leagues top tier teams.

when we had shaq and kobe.. it was the same.. at least one of them had to play well.


Please dont compare Kobe and Shaq to Lebron and AD, it is disrespectful to 2 Laker greats. Lebron and AD havent won diddly squat yet.


Exactly. That’s jumping ahead. Shaq was 24 and Kobe 17 when they joined up and they had the great Phil Jackson coaching them will amazing role players.
That’s like comparing apples and bananas


I'm not comparing their careers.. I'm saying that they just both can't have off nights because they're our duo. Kobe and Shaq were our best players back then and when they both had bad nights.. we lost.


I think most teams whose top 2 players have off nights generally lose
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:02 pm    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
DillonSD wrote:
We looked worse than last year and that's saying something. Aside from better shooting we looked afraid to attack.

AD looks soft to me, highly unimpressed. Looks like a
stat stuffer and not somebody playing to win


No, what we saw was a new team. 9 new players that have never played together. New coaching staff figuring out what rotations work best.
What we saw is a clippers team that already has chemistry and already has a system. They just inserted Leonard into it.

As expected, the clippers are going to be really good. Let’s not act surprised folks.
The Lakers need time to mesh.
This actually was a great way to start the season..
Gives them a gauge of what works

Not crying over this. I agree with most comments here. This team will need to figure things out and they will.

Keep in mind, it was game 1


Yes, this is spot on.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:58 am    Post subject:

Surfitall wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
DillonSD wrote:
We looked worse than last year and that's saying something. Aside from better shooting we looked afraid to attack.

AD looks soft to me, highly unimpressed. Looks like a
stat stuffer and not somebody playing to win


No, what we saw was a new team. 9 new players that have never played together. New coaching staff figuring out what rotations work best.
What we saw is a clippers team that already has chemistry and already has a system. They just inserted Leonard into it.

As expected, the clippers are going to be really good. Let’s not act surprised folks.
The Lakers need time to mesh.
This actually was a great way to start the season..
Gives them a gauge of what works

Not crying over this. I agree with most comments here. This team will need to figure things out and they will.

Keep in mind, it was game 1


Yes, this is spot on.


FYI: Lakers celebrate championships; Clippers celebrate meaningless wins.

Clippers guard Patrick Beverley was fined $25,000 by the NBA for throwing a game ball into the stands after the game.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27913930/clippers-patrick-beverley-fined-25k-throwing-ball-stands
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:11 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
DillonSD wrote:
We looked worse than last year and that's saying something. Aside from better shooting we looked afraid to attack.

AD looks soft to me, highly unimpressed. Looks like a
stat stuffer and not somebody playing to win


No, what we saw was a new team. 9 new players that have never played together. New coaching staff figuring out what rotations work best.
What we saw is a clippers team that already has chemistry and already has a system. They just inserted Leonard into it.

As expected, the clippers are going to be really good. Let’s not act surprised folks.
The Lakers need time to mesh.
This actually was a great way to start the season..
Gives them a gauge of what works

Not crying over this. I agree with most comments here. This team will need to figure things out and they will.

Keep in mind, it was game 1


Yes, this is spot on.


FYI: Lakers celebrate championships; Clippers celebrate meaningless wins.

Clippers guard Patrick Beverley was fined $25,000 by the NBA for throwing a game ball into the stands after the game.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27913930/clippers-patrick-beverley-fined-25k-throwing-ball-stands


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