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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:48 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:06 pm    Post subject:

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Zo has been good in the preseason. The Pelicans will be fun to watch. Iā€™m rooting for him; heā€™s the kid I wish the Lakers could have kept.


So far Zo is avg 9/6/4 in 23 mins. But his shooting is yuck 32% and 30%.

What's his TS%?


50.3%


Is that good?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:11 pm    Post subject:

LakersMD wrote:
Jack's Room wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Nash Vegas wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Zo has been good in the preseason. The Pelicans will be fun to watch. Iā€™m rooting for him; heā€™s the kid I wish the Lakers could have kept.


So far Zo is avg 9/6/4 in 23 mins. But his shooting is yuck 32% and 30%.

What's his TS%?


50.3%


Is that good?

No, but for Zo...? Progress.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:24 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
Jack's Room wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Nash Vegas wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Zo has been good in the preseason. The Pelicans will be fun to watch. Iā€™m rooting for him; heā€™s the kid I wish the Lakers could have kept.


So far Zo is avg 9/6/4 in 23 mins. But his shooting is yuck 32% and 30%.

What's his TS%?


50.3%


Is that good?

No, but for Zo...? Progress.


not good if your sitting on the pine via CD
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:31 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
Jack's Room wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Nash Vegas wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Zo has been good in the preseason. The Pelicans will be fun to watch. Iā€™m rooting for him; heā€™s the kid I wish the Lakers could have kept.


So far Zo is avg 9/6/4 in 23 mins. But his shooting is yuck 32% and 30%.

What's his TS%?


50.3%


Is that good?

No, but for Zo...? Progress.


not good if your sitting on the pine via CD

Those were his preseason numbers.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:41 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
JerryWest_44 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
Jack's Room wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Nash Vegas wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Zo has been good in the preseason. The Pelicans will be fun to watch. Iā€™m rooting for him; heā€™s the kid I wish the Lakers could have kept.


So far Zo is avg 9/6/4 in 23 mins. But his shooting is yuck 32% and 30%.

What's his TS%?


50.3%


Is that good?

No, but for Zo...? Progress.


not good if your sitting on the pine via CD

Those were his preseason numbers.


I think heā€™s referring to him being benched tonight.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:42 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
Jack's Room wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Nash Vegas wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Zo has been good in the preseason. The Pelicans will be fun to watch. Iā€™m rooting for him; heā€™s the kid I wish the Lakers could have kept.


So far Zo is avg 9/6/4 in 23 mins. But his shooting is yuck 32% and 30%.

What's his TS%?


50.3%


Is that good?

No, but for Zo...? Progress.


not good if your sitting on the pine via CD


I guess maybe if you arenā€™t a team player.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:47 pm    Post subject:

back in there in ot
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:45 pm    Post subject:

Well....

Lonzo starts just where he left off last year...

...earning the year's first Triple Single.

SMH
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:24 pm    Post subject:

I think he will breakout this year, but it does seem like he just doesn't have the mentality/aggression/dog to match his talent.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:25 am    Post subject:

Meh, Boring bust.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:52 am    Post subject:

Benched in the fourth quarter again.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:06 am    Post subject:

Guy isnā€™t a difference maker. Ingram is the only guy in that deal that Has major value. Also the 4th pick came in a 3 player draft.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:44 am    Post subject:

not missing him at all currently
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:33 am    Post subject:

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Benched in the fourth quarter again.


Apparently heā€™s hurt (again).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:09 pm    Post subject:

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Benched in the fourth quarter again.


Apparently heā€™s hurt (again).


Groin injury. Hate to say it but his peak is probably Rubio if he's lucky.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:59 pm    Post subject:

Thanks Magic, I always wanted Tatum.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:42 pm    Post subject:

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Benched in the fourth quarter again.


Apparently heā€™s hurt (again).


Groin injury. Hate to say it but his peak is probably Rubio if he's lucky.



All the data is in .... as the #2 pick Lonzo is a bust
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:41 am    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
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LakersMD wrote:
Benched in the fourth quarter again.


Apparently heā€™s hurt (again).


Groin injury. Hate to say it but his peak is probably Rubio if he's lucky.



All the data is in .... as the #2 pick Lonzo is a bust


Thatā€™s your Magic Johnson in his full glory.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:06 am    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
Benched in the fourth quarter again.


Apparently heā€™s hurt (again).


Groin injury. Hate to say it but his peak is probably Rubio if he's lucky.



All the data is in .... as the #2 pick Lonzo is a bust


I thought all of his numbers were improved this season?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
JerryWest_44 wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
Benched in the fourth quarter again.


Apparently heā€™s hurt (again).


Groin injury. Hate to say it but his peak is probably Rubio if he's lucky.



All the data is in .... as the #2 pick Lonzo is a bust


Thatā€™s your Magic Johnson in his full glory.


And heā€™d have been sent out for AD as well. I still donā€™t get the hype with Tatum. Reminds me a lot of a cross between prime Danny Granger/Pierce.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:20 pm    Post subject:

A prime Pierce that is 4 years from his own prime is a good player to have
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:45 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
Benched in the fourth quarter again.


Apparently heā€™s hurt (again).


Groin injury. Hate to say it but his peak is probably Rubio if he's lucky.



All the data is in .... as the #2 pick Lonzo is a bust


I would consider Darko Milicic ,Hasheem Thabeet and Derrick Williams as busts at #2. Lonzo's numbers are 10/6/6 for his 3 years and he came out of college as a guard that wasn't expected to be a scorer. I don't see that as a bust, especially considering his defensive prowess. Not becoming a superstar doesn't equate to a bust. Not able to stay in the league equates to a bust (See above players). Of course if he only plays 3 years because of a serious injury then maybe the label will fit
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:03 am    Post subject:

OCWA wrote:
JerryWest_44 wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
LakersMD wrote:
Benched in the fourth quarter again.


Apparently heā€™s hurt (again).


Groin injury. Hate to say it but his peak is probably Rubio if he's lucky.



All the data is in .... as the #2 pick Lonzo is a bust


I would consider Darko Milicic ,Hasheem Thabeet and Derrick Williams as busts at #2. Lonzo's numbers are 10/6/6 for his 3 years and he came out of college as a guard that wasn't expected to be a scorer. I don't see that as a bust, especially considering his defensive prowess. Not becoming a superstar doesn't equate to a bust. Not able to stay in the league equates to a bust (See above players). Of course if he only plays 3 years because of a serious injury then maybe the label will fit


I agree that technically he's not a bust, but he's clearly underachieving compared to the hype sorrounding him at the beginning and to some of the other 2017 draftees (tatum, fox, mitchell, markkanen,)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:17 am    Post subject:

Lonzo Ball is still better than Fultz.
And recall DLO didn't break out until year 4, a contract year.
I bet the same thing will happen with Ball.

He will have an up and down year 3, with a new team, like DLO with the Nets inyear 3. Then in year 4 he will do what Ingram is, but in a totally different way.

Probably 12-13 points, 10 assists, 7-8 boards a game. Then people will start talking about him as HOF all time great we were stupid to trade.

It is player development. I think Lonzo will develop, but he needs time. This is year 3. I also think Lonzo needs to play with Zion, great chemistry. And they need to stagger Zion with Ingram a bit. You'll see better results. When Zion comes back healthy, and a month or two have passed, you'll see Ball's value. The Zion-Ball pick and roll game will be beautiful with time. If I'm the Pels I cash in on Ingram's great start and trade him for 2 athletic forwards who can spread the floor around Zion/Ball. The talent they need around Zion and Ball is not Ingram. Lets see how smart Griffin really is.
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