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Kobesystem Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Kobesystem wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Kobesystem wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | MJST wrote: | Why would New Orleans trade him? he's finding his fit with the team and seems to be doing pretty good.
He's young, the team is young, and have a superstar in the making and two stars that surround him that are young and one already all-star caliber player.
They have no reason to trade BI. |
They have two stars? Define star please. |
Next season is contract year for Brandon....
Ingram and Zion ain't exactly ideal. |
They have looked good so far, the team will surprise some. But continue with your agenda. |
Not really.
Pelicans might be 3-0 in the preseason, but Ingram's fit with the pelicans is not perfect or close to ideal....
Just like how people thought that Lebron and Ingram would work, Zion and Ingram won't work at all.... |
Despite it working. Unlike Lebron, the Pelicans wisely aren’t making the offense all about Zion. And naturally you ignore defense. |
Despite it not working......
Also, the Pelicans will probably invest 100 percent in Zion if he is anything close to what we've seen in the preseason....
And Naturally you ignore defense of what? Ingram... haha |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:56 am Post subject: |
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It will be interesting to see what kind of dollars Ingram is looking for. Jaylen Brown just declined 4yr/$80 mil extension offer from the Cs and Buddy Hield was insulted at a 4yr/$90 mil extension offer from the Queens. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I saw a Zion interview and he loves BI, he thinks he is a funny dude. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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audioaxes wrote: | still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. |
He'll play however he's coached to play. It really is that simple. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:48 am Post subject: |
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numero-ocho wrote: | It will be interesting to see what kind of dollars Ingram is looking for. Jaylen Brown just declined 4yr/$80 mil extension offer from the Cs and Buddy Hield was insulted at a 4yr/$90 mil extension offer from the Queens. |
Yeah. These players get expensive real quick. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Taking and making threes. Not much hesitation. Still doesn’t move the ball like a Kuzma,.. but on a team with only three guys you’re comfortable seeing Iso in he, Jrue and NAW,.. he’s getti it done. Not bad for a guy who’s coming off of so much missed time. 23/7/4 with 44/39/81 splits in preseason PER 36. I like what I’ve seen. |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. |
He'll play however he's coached to play. It really is that simple. |
No he plays how he wants to. |
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hype Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. |
He'll play however he's coached to play. It really is that simple. |
No he plays how he wants to. |
eh not really.. he changed his playing style quite a bit over the years doing whatever the coach asked.. it was one of my biggest criticisms early on is that it seemed like he was trying to be good at a bunch of things and several completely different roles versus focusing on certain aspects and excel at that in the first few years.
He's still a big question mark on just how good he will be but there is still no doubt he has elite potential imo just like Ball. They are both already really solid players but neither are great which is what is going to make the Pelicans so fun to watch this season along with Zion. |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. |
He'll play however he's coached to play. It really is that simple. |
No he plays how he wants to. |
Piss off dude. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Luminous8 wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. |
He'll play however he's coached to play. It really is that simple. |
No he plays how he wants to. |
Piss off dude. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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hype wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. |
He'll play however he's coached to play. It really is that simple. |
No he plays how he wants to. |
eh not really.. he changed his playing style quite a bit over the years doing whatever the coach asked.. it was one of my biggest criticisms early on is that it seemed like he was trying to be good at a bunch of things and several completely different roles versus focusing on certain aspects and excel at that in the first few years.
He's still a big question mark on just how good he will be but there is still no doubt he has elite potential imo just like Ball. They are both already really solid players but neither are great which is what is going to make the Pelicans so fun to watch this season along with Zion. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:38 am Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. |
He'll play however he's coached to play. It really is that simple. |
No he plays how he wants to. |
Comments like that make one question if the poster has watched Laker games. It is just ignorant regarding the subject. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. |
He'll play however he's coached to play. It really is that simple. |
No he plays how he wants to. |
Comments like that make one question if the poster has watched Laker games. It is just ignorant regarding the subject. |
He’s not going to rewrite the narrative when it doesn’t fit his clear cut bias. |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | numero-ocho wrote: | It will be interesting to see what kind of dollars Ingram is looking for. Jaylen Brown just declined 4yr/$80 mil extension offer from the Cs and Buddy Hield was insulted at a 4yr/$90 mil extension offer from the Queens. |
Yeah. These players get expensive real quick. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Siakam got a 4 year/$130m deal.
Crazy $. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:25 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Siakam got a 4 year/$130m deal.
Crazy $. |
Quote: | Buddy Hield has reportedly agreed to a four-year contract extension worth $86 million, per Sam Amick of The Athletic.
Amick added the contract has $20 million in possible incentives. Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports confirmed the details of the deal. |
Simmons and Murray both got 5 year/$170m extensions. I wonder why they didn't give Siakam that 5th year?
This should set a more reasonable bar for the rest of the 2016 class. To me, Siakam had more leverage than Ingram, Brown or even Hield. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:19 am Post subject: |
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numero-ocho wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Siakam got a 4 year/$130m deal.
Crazy $. |
Quote: | Buddy Hield has reportedly agreed to a four-year contract extension worth $86 million, per Sam Amick of The Athletic.
Amick added the contract has $20 million in possible incentives. Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports confirmed the details of the deal. |
Simmons and Murray both got 5 year/$170m extensions. I wonder why they didn't give Siakam that 5th year?
This should set a more reasonable bar for the rest of the 2016 class. To me, Siakam had more leverage than Ingram, Brown or even Hield. |
I wonder what BI can command (and NO would be under pressure to keep him), Knicks should have plenty of cap space to throw $ to him, DSJ, Barrett, BI, Randle, Robinson and then Knox... |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | numero-ocho wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Siakam got a 4 year/$130m deal.
Crazy $. |
Quote: | Buddy Hield has reportedly agreed to a four-year contract extension worth $86 million, per Sam Amick of The Athletic.
Amick added the contract has $20 million in possible incentives. Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports confirmed the details of the deal. |
Simmons and Murray both got 5 year/$170m extensions. I wonder why they didn't give Siakam that 5th year?
This should set a more reasonable bar for the rest of the 2016 class. To me, Siakam had more leverage than Ingram, Brown or even Hield. |
I wonder what BI can command (and NO would be under pressure to keep him), Knicks should have plenty of cap space to throw $ to him, DSJ, Barrett, BI, Randle, Robinson and then Knox... |
Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski
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Boston Celtics forward Jaylen Brown has agreed to a four-year, $115M million contract extension, agent Jason Glushon tells ESPN. |
Probably somewhere in this neighborhood. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Zion out, time for iso-BI and get paid |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Crazy looking back at the 2016 draft:
1. Simmons-max
2. BI-no extension
3. Brown-29m/year deal
4. Bender (bust)
5. Dunn (bust0
6. Hield-100m ish extension
7. Murray-max
8. Chriss (sort of a bust)
9. Poetl (eh)
10. Maker (eh)
11. Sabonis (overpaid extension)
12. Prince (extended)
13. Papa G (bust)
14. Denzel (bust) _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:57 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Zion out, time for iso-BI and get paid |
Deadline for rookie extensions was last night. I wonder if the Pels even offered him one. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:51 am Post subject: |
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numero-ocho wrote: | governator wrote: | Zion out, time for iso-BI and get paid |
Deadline for rookie extensions was last night. I wonder if the Pels even offered him one. |
wait, so he's gonna be UFA? |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:52 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | numero-ocho wrote: | governator wrote: | Zion out, time for iso-BI and get paid |
Deadline for rookie extensions was last night. I wonder if the Pels even offered him one. |
wait, so he's gonna be UFA? |
RFA
Looking forward to seeing the matchup between BI and the guy in his draft class who just got a max contract. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:22 am Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | hype wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | still not sold in BI. He still seems completely lost on how to contribute on offense without having the ball and his offense is not that good for someone who wants to ISO all the time.
so far looking like the Lakers made off well by trading him before the extension bill came due. |
He'll play however he's coached to play. It really is that simple. |
No he plays how he wants to. |
eh not really.. he changed his playing style quite a bit over the years doing whatever the coach asked.. it was one of my biggest criticisms early on is that it seemed like he was trying to be good at a bunch of things and several completely different roles versus focusing on certain aspects and excel at that in the first few years.
He's still a big question mark on just how good he will be but there is still no doubt he has elite potential imo just like Ball. They are both already really solid players but neither are great which is what is going to make the Pelicans so fun to watch this season along with Zion. |
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so last season the Lakers told Brandon to neglect practicing 3 point spot ups and just focus on throwing up contested mid range shots? And when the ball is not in his had to just kinda stand around with his hands on his hips instead of making cuts and screens? _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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