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waterman40 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:02 am Post subject: |
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I will say in KCP's defense, he was the teams best free throw shooter - by a lot last season. In a day and age when many Lakers act like they are going to get slapped in the face, if they do make a free throw, I give KCP props for bucking the trend. Though a few years ago, our best free throw shooter was Clarkson, so maybe its a idiot savant thing, where a player is dumb in BBIQ, but can actually man up and make free throws above 80%. Sort of like Rainman being good at mathematics , but maybe you don't want to trust him with anything else....
Maybe poor play (especially shooting) is tied to Lakers salary structure - Guys like KCP, Rondo, and in years past, Ball, Ingram, Randle; all making $8-12 million a year, all poor perimeter shooters. Hopefully Green will not forget how to shoot, because we need at least one of these high-earners to stop biting the weenie, and actually make baskets at a high percentage rate.
Do I ask too much? _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 21064 Location: In a white room, with black curtains near the station
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:36 am Post subject: |
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^We'll soon find out. Let's hope it's a fair request. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:11 am Post subject: |
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waterman40 wrote: | I will say in KCP's defense, he was the teams best free throw shooter - by a lot last season. In a day and age when many Lakers act like they are going to get slapped in the face, if they do make a free throw, I give KCP props for bucking the trend. Though a few years ago, our best free throw shooter was Clarkson, so maybe its a idiot savant thing, where a player is dumb in BBIQ, but can actually man up and make free throws above 80%. Sort of like Rainman being good at mathematics , but maybe you don't want to trust him with anything else....
Maybe poor play (especially shooting) is tied to Lakers salary structure - Guys like KCP, Rondo, and in years past, Ball, Ingram, Randle; all making $8-12 million a year, all poor perimeter shooters. Hopefully Green will not forget how to shoot, because we need at least one of these high-earners to stop biting the weenie, and actually make baskets at a high percentage rate.
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I think KCP would receive less scrutiny if he was paid his FMV, which is probably around 5m/year. But he received 18/12/8m (IIRC) the past 3 years and has come nowhere near performing at that range. He also is the butt of Lakers' fans jokes about how he was the downpayment for LBJ/AD.
Pistons were fortunate he foolishly turned down that 80m deal. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:09 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | waterman40 wrote: | I will say in KCP's defense, he was the teams best free throw shooter - by a lot last season. In a day and age when many Lakers act like they are going to get slapped in the face, if they do make a free throw, I give KCP props for bucking the trend. Though a few years ago, our best free throw shooter was Clarkson, so maybe its a idiot savant thing, where a player is dumb in BBIQ, but can actually man up and make free throws above 80%. Sort of like Rainman being good at mathematics , but maybe you don't want to trust him with anything else....
Maybe poor play (especially shooting) is tied to Lakers salary structure - Guys like KCP, Rondo, and in years past, Ball, Ingram, Randle; all making $8-12 million a year, all poor perimeter shooters. Hopefully Green will not forget how to shoot, because we need at least one of these high-earners to stop biting the weenie, and actually make baskets at a high percentage rate.
Do I ask too much? |
I think KCP would receive less scrutiny if he was paid his FMV, which is probably around 5m/year. But he received 18/12/8m (IIRC) the past 3 years and has come nowhere near performing at that range. He also is the butt of Lakers' fans jokes about how he was the downpayment for LBJ/AD.
Pistons were fortunate he foolishly turned down that 80m deal. |
Yeah good for them but not so much for us. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ugh. One sequence. Blocked twice by Steph. Then a 3 ball air ball. 38m down payment on LBJ and AD. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Ugh. One sequence. Blocked twice by Steph. Then a 3 ball air ball. 38m down payment on LBJ and AD. |
Just awful
I can’t wait until Kuzma is back so we don’t need a shot creator as bad on the second unit so we could go with Cook or Daniels instead. |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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KCP is OOC.
What’s up with some of the isolations too? Does he think he’s the #1 option out there when LBJ and AD are out? _________________ |
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matrixskillz Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Least favorite Laker of all time. _________________ We only celebrate championships.
"I GOT WHEATIES!" |
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danzag Franchise Player
Joined: 28 Apr 2013 Posts: 22244 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:34 am Post subject: |
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He's a mess. |
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waterman40 Star Player
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 6280 Location: Central Coast
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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matrixskillz wrote: | Least favorite Laker of all time. |
Brian Grant
Andrew Bynum
Gary Payton
Derek Fisher
Dennis Rodman
I've got a couple I have ahead of him, but I'm sure KCP will move up the list... _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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KCP should be called DNP.
Give his mins to Cook or Daniels. _________________ |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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waterman40 wrote: | matrixskillz wrote: | Least favorite Laker of all time. |
Brian Grant
Andrew Bynum
Gary Payton
Derek Fisher
Dennis Rodman
I've got a couple I have ahead of him, but I'm sure KCP will move up the list... |
Derek Fisher? Really? He’s had some bad moments after his retirement, but he was nails for us for our ring runs. |
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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mhan00 wrote: | waterman40 wrote: | matrixskillz wrote: | Least favorite Laker of all time. |
Brian Grant
Andrew Bynum
Gary Payton
Derek Fisher
Dennis Rodman
I've got a couple I have ahead of him, but I'm sure KCP will move up the list... |
Derek Fisher? Really? He’s had some bad moments after his retirement, but he was nails for us for our ring runs. |
And Bynum was integral to beating the Celtics. |
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realking24 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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D Fish was great fit with Shaq and Kobe. Had clutch DNA. Time after time hit massive shots. Was he the best he’ll no but clutch when we needed him. Very steady |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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After having to endure Chucky Atkins and Smush Parker as our point guards for 3 years, I learned to have a greater appreciation for DFish during his 2nd stint with the Lakers. |
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lakerican Star Player
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 3780
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:54 am Post subject: |
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With the China turmoil, Sun Yue comes to mind...
but keep it close doors. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Another up & down affair for KCP. His defense was solid but his offensive game is too helter-skelter even though he shot well at times. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:56 am Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | Another up & down affair for KCP. His defense was solid but his offensive game is too helter-skelter even though he shot well at times. |
I was shocked when I saw him closing out on a 3 point shooter, and he stayed balanced and in front of the shooter instead of jumping passed the shooter and leaving his team in a 5 on 4 situation. Progress I guess. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:07 am Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | pio2u wrote: | Another up & down affair for KCP. His defense was solid but his offensive game is too helter-skelter even though he shot well at times. |
I was shocked when I saw him closing out on a 3 point shooter, and he stayed balanced and in front of the shooter instead of jumping passed the shooter and leaving his team in a 5 on 4 situation. Progress I guess. |
We dare to hope
KCP's offense is so erratic that when he doesn't play smart defense consistently it hurts the team. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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KCP is a monster when games don’t matter. Like today’s final preseason game.
Hopefully he can contribute when it matters this season. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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scout0_0 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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I hope he is not trying to be our lou williams |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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scout0_0 wrote: | I hope he is not trying to be our lou williams |
He already thinks that he is just that. |
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Runway8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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If i saw KCP play like this consistently, I wouldn't be pissed. But his good performance today is pissing me off because I know we won't see it again until mid December. |
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realking24 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Runway8 wrote: | If i saw KCP play like this consistently, I wouldn't be pissed. But his good performance today is pissing me off because I know we won't see it again until mid December. |
Well with this team if he shows up in December I’ll be happy lol |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Runway8 wrote: | If i saw KCP play like this consistently, I wouldn't be pissed. But his good performance today is pissing me off because I know we won't see it again until mid December. |
well even in his best games he's still good for 3+ bone headed things _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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