Food and Fisheries Minister Mogens Jensen says a ban on wild animals in circuses is expected later this year.
The ministry said Saturday there were no immediate plans as to where to put Ramboline, Lara, Djunga and Jenny, but applicants willing to take the mammals should offer a timely takeover and proper welfare. In the meantime, Animal Protection Denmark would ensure their welfare until then.
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:25 am Post subject:
I have to think "the circus" is on it's last days in the US also. I do not patronage them and it's been years since I think I have seen an advertisement for one.
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:28 am Post subject:
adkindo wrote:
I have to think "the circus" is on it's last days in the US also. I do not patronage them and it's been years since I think I have seen an advertisement for one.
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:40 am Post subject:
Elephants are very intelligent. They have enormous brains and wild elephant society is highly complex. To put them in small cages and make them perform is just a travesty. To me this is one of the saddest thing in our current state of affairs, all of the animal suffering. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:05 am Post subject:
What do you guys think about Zoo's? Although I swore off Circus's years ago and I canceled membership @ Sea World after Blackfish; I do still enjoy visiting Zoo's, but I know some people feel that is hypocritical on my part.
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:11 am Post subject:
adkindo wrote:
What do you guys think about Zoo's? Although I swore off Circus's years ago and I canceled membership @ Sea World after Blackfish; I do still enjoy visiting Zoo's, but I know some people feel that is hypocritical on my part.
The plural of zoo is zoos. The plural of circus is circuses. Adding the apostrophe (or hyphen, as folks in your circle might think of them ) makes it possessive. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:25 pm Post subject:
Zoos are a necessary at this point. So many species are extinct or practically extinct in the wild so captive breeding programs are necessary. Plus I feel that they are needed so that people can make a connection with wildlife and learn about how many animals are endangered and what can be done to help. Zoos helped bring the CA condor back from the brink of extinction. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:09 pm Post subject:
Dr. Funkbot wrote:
Zoos are a necessary at this point. So many species are extinct or practically extinct in the wild so captive breeding programs are necessary. Plus I feel that they are needed so that people can make a connection with wildlife and learn about how many animals are endangered and what can be done to help. Zoos helped bring the CA condor back from the brink of extinction.
You took the words I was going to post right out of my mouth, right down to the condor part.
Zoos have evolved a great deal from the days when they simply placed animals on display in cages. They are now a logical and important resource as a way to both preserve rare species, but to appropriately educate
But part of responsible zoology is going to have to involve the realization that certain species shouldn't be confined to the space that zoos have to offer. Large mammals like elephants shouldn't be living in places that don't allow them to roam for less than an acre.
And along those lines, I would point out that the same zoo that was integral in saving the California condor is also the same place that has one confined in a cage that allows it to spread its wings out, but no space to actually fly. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:12 am Post subject:
I was raised around Christians and heard about "Stewards of the Earth" "Brothers Keeper" etc anyhow.. I connected with animals very easily as a boy.
This video really helps you see We are not that much different from them. They are not that much different than us.
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:50 am Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Dr. Funkbot wrote:
Zoos are a necessary at this point. So many species are extinct or practically extinct in the wild so captive breeding programs are necessary. Plus I feel that they are needed so that people can make a connection with wildlife and learn about how many animals are endangered and what can be done to help. Zoos helped bring the CA condor back from the brink of extinction.
You took the words I was going to post right out of my mouth, right down to the condor part.
Zoos have evolved a great deal from the days when they simply placed animals on display in cages. They are now a logical and important resource as a way to both preserve rare species, but to appropriately educate
But part of responsible zoology is going to have to involve the realization that certain species shouldn't be confined to the space that zoos have to offer. Large mammals like elephants shouldn't be living in places that don't allow them to roam for less than an acre.
And along those lines, I would point out that the same zoo that was integral in saving the California condor is also the same place that has one confined in a cage that allows it to spread its wings out, but no space to actually fly.
it does seem like the overall business model is trying to serve two masters. They rely on the customer experience being at the level that drives revenue....and often this requires an up close an personal experience with these wild animals. In contrast, they are trying to provide the animal with a "comfortable" life both physically and mentally and that often involves larger amounts of space and the ability to actually get away from the paying customers.
Thankfully I do think the trend has leaned more in favor to the animals needs in recent decades....at least more so than it did in previous decades. I do get the dilemma as does anyone that has taken a child to an exhibit that has a sign labeled Bengal Tiger....then you look out there and it is just a large field with constructed rocks, caves, etc., but no sign of the Bengal Tiger who is on a 5 hour nap on a cool rock out of sight.
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