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lonzobryant Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: |
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How about Kevin Ollie? |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | We are on pace to win 45 games and be exactly where I thought we would be and yet it’s coaching that will change things?
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I think we were already in line to win 45 wins this season with no Lebron and the same young core in tact that we had last year naturally progressing into the roles they were finally growing into. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:53 am Post subject: |
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lonzobryant wrote: | How about Kevin Ollie? |
He took one of the best college basketball programs in the country.....totally destroyed it, and it is finally on the come up again since Dan Hurley took over. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:04 am Post subject: |
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samnizam wrote: | So now LG can evaluate coach lol. |
They sure did a helluva job pre-approving the current one. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:06 am Post subject: |
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ExPatLkrFan wrote: | samnizam wrote: | So now LG can evaluate coach lol. |
They sure did a helluva job pre-approving the current one. |
I was never 100% sold on Luke when hired....but even worse, I wanted Byron when we hired him (and I cheered when we fired him). |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:11 am Post subject: |
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I think Luke is alright if he has solid assistants. He seems to be great at keeping disparate personalities in check.
I wonder if they'd consider doing what USC appears to be doing which is keeping the head coach and replacing all of the assistants. _________________ I'm a Balliever. |
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lonzobryant Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:12 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | How about Kevin Ollie? |
He took one of the best college basketball programs in the country.....totally destroyed it, and it is finally on the come up again since Dan Hurley took over. |
He got them a championship against a juggernaut. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:16 am Post subject: |
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I am definitely intrigued by Jerry Stackhouse. He was successful in the G League, and have heard the young guys in Memphis praise him this year. Has a reputation for demanding his teams play tough defense. I think he would get a lot from the young guys and the older guys would respect him. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:23 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | ExPatLkrFan wrote: | samnizam wrote: | So now LG can evaluate coach lol. |
They sure did a helluva job pre-approving the current one. |
I was never 100% sold on Luke when hired....but even worse, I wanted Byron when we hired him (and I cheered when we fired him). |
Most here cheered him as the flavor of the month. I see a lot of people want to replace his assistants. Well that's just a way to get him to quit. Most coaches will stick with their guys. Maybe they will can one or 2 but probably not wholesale changes on their staff. Because usually one of those staff members is the "coach in waiting" in case he is fired mid season. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:25 am Post subject: |
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lonzobryant wrote: | adkindo wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | How about Kevin Ollie? |
He took one of the best college basketball programs in the country.....totally destroyed it, and it is finally on the come up again since Dan Hurley took over. |
He got them a championship against a juggernaut. |
The 2013-14 UConn roster, or at least the important players were all Jim Calhoun guys that he inherited....he was never able to add that type of talent as the head coach. Also, the Kentucky team they beat was hardly a "juggernaut". Kentucky lost 11 games that year, and did not even win the SEC. That was Randles team. The next year's (2014-15) Kentucky team became a "juggernaut" behind freshmen Towns, Trey Lyles, Devin Booker and Tyler Ulis.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:25 am Post subject: |
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ExPatLkrFan wrote: | adkindo wrote: | ExPatLkrFan wrote: | samnizam wrote: | So now LG can evaluate coach lol. |
They sure did a helluva job pre-approving the current one. |
I was never 100% sold on Luke when hired....but even worse, I wanted Byron when we hired him (and I cheered when we fired him). |
Most here cheered him as the flavor of the month. I see a lot of people want to replace his assistants. Well that's just a way to get him to quit. Most coaches will stick with their guys. Maybe they will can one or 2 but probably not wholesale changes on their staff. Because usually one of those staff members is the "coach in waiting" in case he is fired mid season. |
Well if the other option is firing him then maybe he agrees to the assistant purge. I definitely think it's a long-shot. I just think Luke can work given support he currently doesn't have, and importantly, didn't choose. _________________ I'm a Balliever. |
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GOODRICH25 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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I know, saw that
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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GOODRICH25 wrote: |
I know, saw that
Would pay to witness that timeout with the Lakers |
I'd bet his player would run through walls for Luke |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | adkindo wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | How about Kevin Ollie? |
He took one of the best college basketball programs in the country.....totally destroyed it, and it is finally on the come up again since Dan Hurley took over. |
He got them a championship against a juggernaut. |
The 2013-14 UConn roster, or at least the important players were all Jim Calhoun guys that he inherited....he was never able to add that type of talent as the head coach. Also, the Kentucky team they beat was hardly a "juggernaut". Kentucky lost 11 games that year, and did not even win the SEC. That was Randles team. The next year's (2014-15) Kentucky team became a "juggernaut" behind freshmen Towns, Trey Lyles, Devin Booker and Tyler Ulis. |
You shouldn’t care one iota about Ollie’s ability to recruit high schoolers, sir. He won’t have to do that in the NBA. Just has to coach, manage stars, and be well-respected by Durant.
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aprevo15 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Jason Kidd would be perfect for this team. |
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Sago Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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aprevo15 wrote: | Jason Kidd would be perfect for this team. |
i hope this is a joke. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | ExPatLkrFan wrote: | samnizam wrote: | So now LG can evaluate coach lol. |
They sure did a helluva job pre-approving the current one. |
I was never 100% sold on Luke when hired....but even worse, I wanted Byron when we hired him (and I cheered when we fired him). |
Interesting. I never wanted byron, but was excited for Luke. He felt destined. My disdain for Luke isnt as great as it was for byron, but, it’s different.
Byron should have known better.
Luke just doesnt have a clue. |
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Sago wrote: | aprevo15 wrote: | Jason Kidd would be perfect for this team. |
i hope this is a joke. |
Sadly, I could see this as another compromise pick if Jackson proves too odious for management to stomach. |
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Sago Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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How bout SVG and JVG |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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GOODRICH25 wrote: |
I know, saw that :lol:
Would pay to witness that timeout with the Lakers |
That stare, damn....I mean that isn't going to work on Lebron, but yeah, I'd love to see that with BI/Kuz/Zo et al. Maybe have him as an assistant, he can scream and chew them out and then Luke comes in to give them a positive affirmation right before the end of the time out. Sort of like a good cop, bad coach/bad cop, good coach routine. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | adkindo wrote: | ExPatLkrFan wrote: | samnizam wrote: | So now LG can evaluate coach lol. |
They sure did a helluva job pre-approving the current one. |
I was never 100% sold on Luke when hired....but even worse, I wanted Byron when we hired him (and I cheered when we fired him). |
Interesting. I never wanted byron, but was excited for Luke. He felt destined. My disdain for Luke isnt as great as it was for byron, but, it’s different.
Byron should have known better.
Luke just doesnt have a clue. |
I was not against Luke....just was not as confident that he was the next big thing which was kind of the national narrative when he was on GSW's bench. I was just misguided in regards to Byron....still caught up in Laker exceptionalism and Showtime, etc.
I was much happier about firing Byron than I was about hiring Luke....but Luke meant no Byron, so overall I was pleased. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Joe Pesci wrote: | adkindo wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | adkindo wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | How about Kevin Ollie? |
He took one of the best college basketball programs in the country.....totally destroyed it, and it is finally on the come up again since Dan Hurley took over. |
He got them a championship against a juggernaut. |
The 2013-14 UConn roster, or at least the important players were all Jim Calhoun guys that he inherited....he was never able to add that type of talent as the head coach. Also, the Kentucky team they beat was hardly a "juggernaut". Kentucky lost 11 games that year, and did not even win the SEC. That was Randles team. The next year's (2014-15) Kentucky team became a "juggernaut" behind freshmen Towns, Trey Lyles, Devin Booker and Tyler Ulis. |
You shouldn’t care one iota about Ollie’s ability to recruit high schoolers, sir. He won’t have to do that in the NBA. Just has to coach, manage stars, and be well-respected by Durant.
You’re arguing the wrong thing. |
no, just pointing out his only amount of success was with a team built by Calhoun....once those guys left, the program hit rock bottom with Ollie. Not sure why you are focused on the Ollie/Durant connection....it was widely reported the reason OKC did not give Ollie strong consideration (and that was when his name actually had value) was because it did not move the needle for Durant. So now, 5 years later Durant will decide he wants to play for Kevin Ollie?
I just do not see it....but let's say that is accurate....Durant would be inclined to play for Kevin Ollie for some reason. In what world does Lebron and Rich Paul sign off on Durant bringing in his former mentor to coach Lebron's team? |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Byron was a total waste of a hire, pretty much worthless at every stop he had prior to LA. There was an idea that he might have learned from his previous stops before the Lakers hired him, but actually he manages people badly and he was in a downward spiral his whole coaching career. His X's and O'x skills were never obvious. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Fortysixn2 wrote: | Kobe2Lonz0 wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | We are on pace to win 45 games and be exactly where I thought we would be and yet it’s coaching that will change things?
I don’t see why some overlook that there is no Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving on this roster
Lebron won in a weak east and had two all stars in their primes
Here he has Ingram and Lonzo
And it’s a coach that will make the difference |
Good point |
If we had Popovich as our coach, do you think we could possibly win 50? 52? If you think having a better coach could even net us a couple of wins then we could do better. I don’t say fire him with no backup plan, but if there is a better option it may be worth exploring. |
If we don't have any more major injuries we can win 50 or even 52 with this roster and coach Walton.
We're 11-9 right now. If we had won just one more game, we'd be 12-8, which is a 50-52 win pace.
Right now there is no logical reason to even think about firing Luke. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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