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Lonzo-Lite Star Player
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Harlemlakerfan Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: NBA GM’s Snubs the Lakers Young Core [Received 0 Votes] |
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Lonzo-Lite wrote: | https://sports.yahoo.com/m/2a150f28-44c1-31db-a978-7537913a982a/ss_lakers-get-zero-votes-for.html
Quote: | Which team has the most promising young core?
1. Philadelphia – 47%
2. Boston – 33%
3T. Chicago – 7%
3T. Phoenix – 7%
Also receiving votes: Denver, Utah
Lakers did not receive a single vote |
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Y'all know that there are about 5-7 good GM's in the league right? The rest are idiots. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Bulls and Suns having a better young core is ridiculous. |
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Arbitrary Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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There seems to be a level of disrespect towards our young core if that's the case. I'm sure we're a lot better than the Bulls and Suns. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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NBA GM's - you will pay for your hubris. |
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Runway8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Based on the amount of teams that constantly lose and strap themselves with bad contracts, this poll isn't a surprise. |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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So 1 Jayson Tatum > 1 Kyle Kuzma, 1 Lonzo Ball, 1 Brandon Ingram, 1 Josh Hart.. some of these GMs need to check their math.
I would only rank Philly over LA |
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NotHype Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:30 am Post subject: |
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panamaniac wrote: | So 1 Jayson Tatum > 1 Kyle Kuzma, 1 Lonzo Ball, 1 Brandon Ingram, 1 Josh Hart.. some of these GMs need to check their math.
I would only rank Philly over LA |
As of right now Tatum > Ingram & Kuzma...
Jaylen Brown and Ingram are about equal..
Rozier and Hart are bout equal
I think Boston’s young core is rightfully ranked higher at this moment. |
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Treble Clef Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:45 am Post subject: |
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It's not a snub. I don't know why Chicago got two votes over those other teams but I can see why the Lakers wouldn't be first on anyone's list. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:47 am Post subject: |
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The God Particle Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:04 am Post subject: |
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I think it has much more to do with the fact that our "Core" is no longer young.
For goodness sake, any team that has Lebron James on their roster cannot call their core young. Lebron James IS the core of this team. He's not young. He's the best player in the world, just not young.
As of the other teams on this list - their core IS their young players. |
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Mege Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:06 am Post subject: |
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That also means the Lakers GM did not vote for his own young core. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:25 am Post subject: |
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The God Particle wrote: | I think it has much more to do with the fact that our "Core" is no longer young.
For goodness sake, any team that has Lebron James on their roster cannot call their core young. Lebron James IS the core of this team. He's not young. He's the best player in the world, just not young.
As of the other teams on this list - their core IS their young players. |
This along with shiny new penny syndrome. _________________ Under New Management |
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:18 am Post subject: |
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These things matter not... |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | The God Particle wrote: | I think it has much more to do with the fact that our "Core" is no longer young.
For goodness sake, any team that has Lebron James on their roster cannot call their core young. Lebron James IS the core of this team. He's not young. He's the best player in the world, just not young.
As of the other teams on this list - their core IS their young players. |
This along with shiny new penny syndrome. |
By that logic, Boston's core is Kyrie/Hayward/Horford. Tatum inserted himself into that core, but Brown and Rozier are complementary young pieces. Obviously they are looking at it independent of the veterans.
Doesn't matter. Look back at previous GM polls and you'll see a whole slew of headscatchers. |
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Aeneas Hunter Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:24 am Post subject: |
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As I said in the other thread about the GM survey, I like to see some air being let out of the hype balloon. Our young core has potential, for sure, but some people around here have convinced themselves that it is a lot better than it really is. |
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durden-tyler Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Mege wrote: | That also means the Lakers GM did not vote for his own young core. |
They can’t... |
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AY2043 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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durden-tyler wrote: | Mege wrote: | That also means the Lakers GM did not vote for his own young core. |
They can’t... |
Either that or Rob is just a rational person and voted for Philly. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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durden-tyler wrote: | Mege wrote: | That also means the Lakers GM did not vote for his own young core. |
They can’t... |
Yup. In these surveys, GMs aren’t allowed to vote for their own team. _________________
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ziggy wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | The God Particle wrote: | I think it has much more to do with the fact that our "Core" is no longer young.
For goodness sake, any team that has Lebron James on their roster cannot call their core young. Lebron James IS the core of this team. He's not young. He's the best player in the world, just not young.
As of the other teams on this list - their core IS their young players. |
This along with shiny new penny syndrome. |
By that logic, Boston's core is Kyrie/Hayward/Horford. Tatum inserted himself into that core, but Brown and Rozier are complementary young pieces. Obviously they are looking at it independent of the veterans.
Doesn't matter. Look back at previous GM polls and you'll see a whole slew of headscatchers. |
Good point, re: Boston. I stand behind my shiny new penny comment vis-a-vis the Suns and Bulls (the Bulls?!) being selected over the Lakers' youths. _________________ Under New Management |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Aeneas Hunter wrote: | As I said in the other thread about the GM survey, I like to see some air being let out of the hype balloon. Our young core has potential, for sure, but some people around here have convinced themselves that it is a lot better than it really is. |
Lonzo had the most impactful bad shooting season from a young player that I can remember since Jason Kidd. I'll stay on his hype train over a one-way shotjacker like Devin Booker, but that's just me.
And the Bulls?! Over the Lakers?! I love me some Wendell Carter, but come on. _________________ Under New Management |
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NotHype Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | As I said in the other thread about the GM survey, I like to see some air being let out of the hype balloon. Our young core has potential, for sure, but some people around here have convinced themselves that it is a lot better than it really is. |
Lonzo had the most impactful bad shooting season from a young player that I can remember since Jason Kidd. I'll stay on his hype train over a one-way shotjacker like Devin Booker, but that's just me.
And the Bulls?! Over the Lakers?! I love me some Wendell Carter, but come on. |
I agree with this. I think Boston and Philly should be ranked above us. Chicago and Phoenix doesn’t make a lot of sense though...and I’m pretty high on Booker’s talent. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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I guess it's a fair assessment, though these things are always as pure a personal guess as can be. That said, given the lousy W-L records our Lakers have cobbled together in last couple seasons, I can't promote our current young core as something special.
I'd gauge that the PHO best two (Booker, Ayton) are to become instantly a better combined talent than our best two were (whoever you pick.) I'd personally take Booker over any one young Laker on board today.
As for CHI, well, there's not been much to distinguish their best two (Dunn ? LaVine ? Markkanen) individually or collectively at all from our best. A nice group of players, sure but nothing all-NBA so far. I don't see much qualitative difference there from the Laker young core. _________________ “These GOAT discussions are fun distractions while sitting around waiting for the pizza to be served.”
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Aeneas Hunter Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | As I said in the other thread about the GM survey, I like to see some air being let out of the hype balloon. Our young core has potential, for sure, but some people around here have convinced themselves that it is a lot better than it really is. |
Lonzo had the most impactful bad shooting season from a young player that I can remember since Jason Kidd. I'll stay on his hype train over a one-way shotjacker like Devin Booker, but that's just me.
And the Bulls?! Over the Lakers?! I love me some Wendell Carter, but come on. | .
One or two GMs voted for the Bulls. One or two GMs voted for the Suns. All of the others voted for Boston or Philadelphia. It doesn’t surprise me that a couple GMs are really high on guys like Markkanen and Ayton. |
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AFireInside619 wrote: | These things matter not... |
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